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The new Assault Meta: Minion Denial + "Da Sandwich"

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Greenevers » August 20, 2014 10:18am | Report



Yah, but I'm sorry dacoqrs, I agree with Sub this won't work. Don't think you're stupid doe

hu3 listen 2 me, i gawt a 100% win rate in assault - 1 win 0 loss hu3
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Pentargonite » August 20, 2014 10:25am | Report
Greenevers wrote:




?
I know it's true but I don't understand why it would fit in this thread...

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Greenevers » August 20, 2014 11:39am | Report
Yeah sorry, I've been going off topic a lot recently lol, but I tend to ignore most drama/arguments on the site as well
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Pentargonite » August 20, 2014 11:47am | Report
Greenevers wrote:

Yeah sorry, I've been going off topic a lot recently lol, but I tend to ignore most drama/arguments on the site as well

But drama is fun.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by dacoqrs » August 20, 2014 12:08pm | Report
Pentargonite wrote:


But drama is fun.


It's all fun and games until I'm trying to make a legit point.

I'm just trying to say that, well, in Assault, you are going to die no matter what.

Would you rather die by eventually just being poked so much by enemy mages that your health just gets eaten away and you "contribute" nothing but "defending" you're tower.

Or would you at least ATTEMPT to make a run for it, and possibly make a move that could benefit your team?

It's either that or you sit under tower, constantly getting harassed until you die. Simple as that.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Subzero008 » August 20, 2014 12:13pm | Report
dacoqrs wrote:



It's all fun and games until I'm trying to make a legit point.

I'm just trying to say that, well, in Assault, you are going to die no matter what.

Would you rather die by eventually just being poked so much by enemy mages that your health just gets eaten away and you "contribute" nothing but "defending" you're tower.

Or would you at least ATTEMPT to make a run for it, and possibly make a move that could benefit your team?

It's either that or you sit under tower, constantly getting harassed until you die. Simple as that.

You make it sound like no one does anything in Assault until you came up with this game mode. Stop giving black-and-white arguments, it makes you look manipulative.

Here's a real question:
Would you rather use a niche yet risky tactic that virtually guarantees your death, or would you rather fight with your team, and all the risks and rewards that accompany it, with the possibility of living long enough to suicide to a tower or being healed?
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by dacoqrs » August 20, 2014 12:19pm | Report
Subzero008 wrote:


You make it sound like no one does anything in Assault until you came up with this game mode. Stop giving black-and-white arguments, it makes you look manipulative.

Here's a real question:
Would you rather use a niche yet risky tactic that virtually guarantees your death, or would you rather fight with your team, and all the risks and rewards that accompany it, with the possibility of living long enough to suicide to a tower or being healed?


Well, it depends on the circumstances, really.

The first option does almost always mean you're going to die, and it certainly is risky. However, I think the first option does have it's place and time.

The second option means you have a chance to survive, but in the mean time you could also harassed down while at the same time contributing nothing.

So what if you NEED to die to buy items? You've went ham and you have 3-5k+ gold? Maybe it's worth it to try and deny them minions, while also earning a **** ton of gold before you die.

It just seems silly to wait under tower "defending it" (Waiting for the enemy team to kill it) and dying because you didn't think He Bubba's Waterspout was going to hit that hard and kill you.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Pentargonite » August 20, 2014 12:23pm | Report
dacoqrs wrote:





It just seems silly to wait under tower "defending it" (Waiting for the enemy team to kill it) and dying because you didn't think He Bubba's Waterspout was going to hit that hard and kill you.

You never made a sick play which wiped the enemy team so that your team could win?

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by dacoqrs » August 20, 2014 12:25pm | Report
Pentargonite wrote:

You never made a sick play which wiped the enemy team so that your team could win?


I have, and that's the best case scenario with defending your towers.

At the same time, however, I've also "Da Sandwiched" enemy teams before, and it's basically a guaranteed deicide because they have nowhere to run; they're surrounded on both sides. There's no doubt that you STILL may die (which isn't a big deal if you have a lot of gold), but your team will also wipe the opposition at the same time.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Firraria » August 20, 2014 12:40pm | Report
Here's what I think would really happen if you used this strat:

Team 1 sends Mercury to stop minions as Team 2 pushes Team 1's Phoenix like crazy.
Team 2 can now make a choice. Send in someone to tank the Phoenix and kill it, which may hurt them, or fall back and kill Mercury.
The obvious choice: Kill Mercury. Send 5 people back to kill Mercury. With the amount of CC that 5 gods have, Merc won't touch anybody.
But now that Team 2 is all the way back at their Phoenix, Team 1 can push, right? Wrong. Team 2 now has 5 living members, while Team 1 is not only underfed from the minion denial (thanks to their own Mercury), but they only have 4 living members. So Team 2 pushes Team 1 to their Phoenix again, and we're back where we started.

Sorry, I just can't see it working.
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