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Freya
Yes, she is does a lot of damage but she buys that damage with weak points in her mechanics and you should use them if you play vs her.

She is an auto attack based magical god with two AA buffs. If she use both together she does a lot of damage.
Her only direct damage skill is her ultimate and it's also her only escape (90 sec).

About Banish
Have fun to use Banish as an "escape" vs more than one player. :/
It's not compareable with a jump/dash/teleport/vanish/whatever - not even with a speed buff and most none-tank gods have something like that.
It's also not compareable with a root or stun - you are not able to attack the target in this time. Not even with a mesmerize - you are not able to end if before the time is over.

The lack of escapes (speed/jump/dash/teleport/vanish/whatever) together with her low HP/protections is the reason why you are not able to use Irradiate without Pulse most of the time. So it's no good idea to increase Pulse CD. Would be ok if there would be some good magical CDR items but there is nothing compareable to Jotunn's Wrath.

About her ultimate:
Freya player use less MP than other mages
Works not so great together with Demonic Grip debuff mechanics
She is not able to use auto attacks (AA) during this time
Her AAs with Irradiate & Pulse do more damage per strike and even more in 5 sec
If you run under her it's not easy for Freya to aim and you can kill her when she comes back to earth
Jumps/dashes/teleport/Aegis/C-Blink or even Sprint helps a lot

To her Irradiate & Pulse mechanics
She does very good damage for 5 sec if she use Irradiate & Pulse together but near no damage 6 afterwards
So her damage is very vulnerable against CC or positioning

If she activate Pulse (animation & sound), disable her or go out of range. 5 sec afterwards - feel free to jump in her face.

Freya is very powerful vs player who ignore her mechanics but fairly easy to kill if you respect it.

Compare her with baka - another multi buff AA based god without stun/root
If Insatiable Hunger is active and his Butcher Blades and his Regurgitate => he does a lot of damage but he has also cripple, slow, other minions, AoE damage, physical power bonus, 30% AS bonus, 30% MS bonus, additional true damage, immunity to CC, protection reduction via his jump...

Yes, it's also his ultimate but he has a lot more utility - even after the nerfs during last patches.

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i dont see the problem with hercs heal i mean you just dont attack him for 4 seconds then the heal is not much of a problem

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i dont see the problem with hercs heal i mean you just dont attack him for 4 seconds then the heal is not much of a problem

Yeah exactly, the heal will do nothing more than a heal pot if you're smart about it to begin with.

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Freya is OP. While yeah, she only has her buff for 5 seconds, but keep in mind it will apply a slow. Meaning you cannot run, and if you use a dash/jump she can easily catch up, especially if she bought a Gem of Isolation/Binding. And even if she can't, she always has her ult chase you down with.
It's true that she only has 5 seconds of time to be OP (notice how none of the others gods do, so saying it's only 5 seconds justifies nothing), but remember that it's unlikely you'll run into a Freya with her skills on CD unless she just got out of a fight, meaning she'll kill you long before you deal enough damage to make her regret being so squishy and lacking any real escape. You don't need an escape when you kill everything within 3 seconds.

Neith is OP.

Herc could use a slight nerf to the healing but that's all.

Also, Thor needs a nerf to his 3. I use Thor A LOT, and that is way too much damage.

I don't think Chronos is OP anymore. (They gave him a slight nerf to speed recently). If you don't get a tank with high CC on your team then it's your own fault you get destroyed by him.

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So Freya is OP and Chronos not... oO

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Freya is OP. While yeah, she only has her buff for 5 seconds, but keep in mind it will apply a slow.

she looses the slow if she stacks her 1 and 2.

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#1 Thing I must say, I don't really run into gods I have problems with, meaning I currently do not see any god as TOO OP in smite to where I have to make threads about it, like I say all the time, I am the rage master so if I'm not raging about gods being op then I must not have any problems with most of them if not all of them.

The way smite is set up is that even stronger gods can be countered by active items like aegis so honestly it doesn't matter how strong you are, lets say ares ult did 1000 damage, well I still wouldn't care because I would never get caught by it.

Maybe I'm insane but no matter WHO the other team picks I never say OP. They can even pick hebo for all I care who I say has a OP 1 but I still don't really care much that is strong, I just simply know I can still beat him so I don't care about him especially when there are so many gods in the game that can do different things.

#1 Freya, She is strong but I don't really care about her much, even though she is strong as **** I still for some reason don't give 2 ****s about her. Yes shes annoying but honestly the way smite is set up its almost as if it doesn't matter because at the end of the day when anubis wraps you up it doesn't matter how powerful you are you will be dead.

#2 Neith, Why would you want her backflip to have a charge or do no damage? That is kind of dumb because it would be useless other than escaping. WHy not have all escapes do no damage then, no it would make smite less fun. I really have no problem with neith either! SHE IS ANNOYING and that is it. THE ONLY thing annoying is her heal. Her ult I laugh at because I aegis or beads, its a joke. Her rooting is what makes her neith so I'm not too concerned. The only thing that makes her special is her heal, where as anhur, xbl, ect can't heal. Cupid can but he has to get hearts which you can attack him while he does or stop him from getting it.

#3 Hercules. Other than minigate wounds you should really have no problems with him. Like the person said above me, they killed hercules early? This person just said they waste abilities on him 1v1? YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO ATTACK HIM WHEN HE IS HEALING get it through your heads man.
I can see if its a team fight of course team mates will attack him, but if its 1v1 you should know not to waste abilites on him until his heal deactivates, its not that long.

I honestly don't have much trouble with hercules either, ya killing him can be tough DEPENDING on who you are. But You shouldn't be targeting hercules anyways. His 1 is fine because its so short that its a joke and why would you get close to him anyways duh?
His 2 takes some skill to use perfectly all the time, it has decent range but also a delay and has to be hit on the end. his 2 isn't a problem either.

TIP FOR DODGING HERCULES 2 : all you have to do is stay mid range, the range in between hercules 2 skill shot, its impossible for him to 2 you EVER if you say closer than where the end of the 2 knocks you up.

Hercules ULT : Can be dodged WITH EASE just like NEITH and POS ult. Its called AEGIS GUYS PICK IT UP.

Hercules miniagte wounds : I will give you this one, hercules minigate wounds is very strong late game, and thats latemid-LATE GAME. It could use maybe a slight nerf MAYBE but thats it.

All other skills that hercueles do are avoidable.

I don't have problems with mostly any god on smite, I think they are all pretty balanced besides a move or two but thats nit picking when its not a big deal when so many gods have crazy abilities and CC they can do.

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that includes, Freyas ult, hercules ult, and neiths ult.
and almost every ult on the game.

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i dont see the problem with hercs heal i mean you just dont attack him for 4 seconds then the heal is not much of a problem

Exactly.

Guys listen I will tell you how to beat hercules its very easy this will be the final time I say it. Also I will tell you something about his healing first of all.

If you are facing hercules 1v1 there should be no excuse of his healing.
If you are facing hercules 5v5 than at least you have an excuse because of your team mates

Now, I say this because if its 1v1 THEN YOU CONTROL how much HP hercules will get back.
If its a 5v5 team fight then YOU no longer control how much hp he gets back, you have to rely on your team to be smart enough hopefully to know when or when not to attack.
IMO this is why people think he is OP, its either because they attack him or have team mates that don't know how to fight him.

HOW TO BEAT HERCULES. (with ease)

Hercules will ALWAYS use his 2 first. So what does this mean?
This should mean that the ONLY thing you are concerned about is not getting hit by the END of his 2.

So how do you not get hit by it? Well it is very simple. You either out range it or get UN RANGE IT. Both ways counter it. If you are out ranging it, it simply cannot reach you. But if you UN RANGE it meaning you get closer to hercules he can't 2 you because the 2 only knocks up at the END of the 2 NOT THE MIDDLE OF THE 2.

So when I fight a hercules I simply stay in the middle of his 2 and I laugh because he is probably impressed by my tactic and he realizes he can't 2 me anymore.

So you just defeated his 2, but you still have his 1 to worry about right?
Wrong, if you defeated his 2 then you defeated his 1. Why?
Hercules 1 is shorter than his 2 so if you are out range of his 2 you are out range of his 1. If you choose to dodge his 2 by coming closer to him than all he can do is 1 you away from himself which isn't bad.

So you just countered his 2 and his 1 was it hard? NOT REALLY PIECE OF CAKE.

So what skills does hercules have left? Well he has his ult and his mitigate wounds.
1v1 minigate wounds should be a joke as you control when he gets hp back and how much he gets back.

His ult should be a joke as well assuming you are not in his face, you simply aegis it like you would any delayed ult, this includes pos ult, neith ult, ect.

So what does hercules have left? Well he has melee basic attacks?
But if you defeated his 1, his 2, his minigate wounds and his ult!!!!
You should have defeated his melee range as well.

YOU JUST BEAT HERCULES WITH EASE.

Now HERE IS THE PROBLEM.
You can beat him, but can your team?

FUN TIP WITH HERCULES COMBO.

Instead of doing his 2 + 1 combo you can reverse it and do 1 + 2.
How?

YOu first stun them, then quickly walk backwards then 2 them.

I have yet to see a hercules do this combo on me yet because none are very smart to do it.

SO LET ME ASK YOU LEGIT

If you can counter hercules with ease and I just showed you how, none of you can deny how easy doing those things are, then how is he hard to face.

Its because your TEAM or you simply arn't doing what I said.

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I literally owned a Neith in conquest today. Even though why they didn't have a mage go mid; I have no clue. Ao Kuang vs Neith = a happy Ao Kuang.

Herc is a pain solo but not so much if he gets ganked. I find the best way to kill a herc is with a gank.

Freya. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Her 1-2 combo is pretty much the only pain I have when it comes dealing with her. Yet I play gods that can stun her so her combo fails. For ones that don't have a stun; I bust out the level 3 hand of the gods with the stun on it.

On average this is the Freya combo. Banish to get close to the enemy. 1-2 combo. Ult to get the kill if needed. Mess up her combo and her Ult won't kill you.

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Zerosaviour, as an Ao player I can tell you that Ao is difficult to play against a Neith. I believe I made a point on this in my guide.

Hmm... I caused a decent conversation here. You all have good points, except for ICEN calling people dumb again. ***...

My P.O.V is based on my interactions with these Gods. It would seem that some people have better/worse interactions with them, due to either skill or lack of it. I still find them to be the most overpowered in the game.

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