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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Raventhor » August 15, 2013 4:33pm | Report
Oh and one final note (BTW, that was ridiculously in depth, Sunfall..)

Loki's Vanish is cancelled by any 100% player control CC. This means it can't be a movement stopping ( Spirit Arrow), it must be control stopping like Shroud of Darkness or Tail Whip. Note that many, many abiltiies, including the two used as examples, are AoE. This means, as say a Sobek, if you see a Loki Vanish, and your incredibly big AoE Tail Whip hits him, he is knocked out of stealth, has no escape, and is now 100% vulnerable to instantly die.

Many other types of gods have something similar, too. Apollo has Mesmerize, Chronos has Stop Time, and the list goes on and on and on. Any knockback, banish, mesmerize, stun, knockup, etc will get him out of stealth. And many, many, many gods have this.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » August 15, 2013 4:33pm | Report
The only thing that I hate about loki is his ult.

I know you can aegis and it works half of the time.

But his ult is bs because its so fast that you can barely see it happen and by time he does it your dead.

Its not like other ults where you actually have a chance to see whats going on,

its just bam hes under your anus and your dead.

Basically YOU HAVE NO AEGIS YOUR FREAKING DEAD.

Thats the only thing I hate about loki is his ult.
I can careless about his vanish even though its annoying its not as annoying as his ult that is almost not catchable by the eye.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by HollowsEdge » August 15, 2013 7:23pm | Report
ive noticed recently when playing fenrir for ***** n giggles that loki's vanish cancelled out brutalize! when did tht come in?

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Raventhor » August 15, 2013 7:27pm | Report
HollowsEdge wrote:

ive noticed recently when playing fenrir for ***** n giggles that loki's vanish cancelled out brutalize! when did tht come in?

Since ever. Anything that ruins targetting (except dashes, now, including Cupid's and Xbalanque's), will stop a brutalize. That includes vanishes, jumps, teleports (blinks), etc.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by RazeMage » August 15, 2013 10:39pm | Report
Except Neith backflip doesn't cancel it

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Raventhor » August 15, 2013 11:10pm | Report
RazeMage wrote:

Except Neith backflip doesn't cancel it

I'm not sure what to classify whatever that is. Is it a jump?
Eh, I've always considered it a dash idk why. Like I was saying though - anything that's not instant (blink, Assassinate, etc) doesn't cancel brutalize.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by RazeMage » August 15, 2013 11:32pm | Report
I guess Neith backflip is a unique one, considered as a dash by fenrir's brutalize but damage at start, cannot jump through wall except skill wall like ymir's

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Emnity » August 16, 2013 12:44am | Report
I don't like the fact that people are no happy with Loki, when they are opposing their own statements. First someone says that Loki is too strong, being able to kill low hp targets in seconds, and then someone else says that he is only good at this and nothing else. Well to me it looks perfectly fine and well designed. He's an assassin first of all. Secondly he is melee which is huge also compared to the advantage that range gives you. All his damage comes from melee attacks meaning that he is ALWAYS risking his skin whatever he does. Now don't go saying that he has stealth and gap closing ult bla bla. If he had neither of those or just one of those... then Loki would have been utter **** god and no way to get him on par with the rest.

His decoy is good for farming yes, and a friend of mine which I duo queue with him always plays him solo lane and I jungle. I'm giving him every blue buff and he can lane with no downtime and still have great potential in any engage. Loki dies like a fly when he get's targeted. Yes he can kill a squishy god in 2 seconds then he can die by the enemy in 2 seconds also. He's just good at what he does, killing priority targets and often times that's reward enough whether he lives or dies afterwards. He doesn't have cc, i'm not counting 1 sec stun which puts u in melee range on a huge CD a reliable stun. He doesn't have an aoe, he doesn't have any team utility, hell he's not even a great lane partner.

Why to complain about a god that does his job and the only job he has better then anyone ? It's like complaining that Poseidon has too much aoe or Sobek having too much cc. Loki is just good god. He's by no means OP.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by dacoqrs » August 17, 2013 4:43pm | Report
Loki is an interesting god.

He isn't like most potentially strong gods, where you can just build a defense item and call it a day. You need to change your play style around a loki. Mainly, move as a team. If you're all bunched together, Loki can't do anything. He can try to sneak in and get a kill, in which your whole team will be on top of him.

Also, as noted before, hard CC is a kill for loki. Ymir, Bacchus, and AOE CC (Apollo, I am looking at you) is the direct counter for Loki.

TL;DR: Stick together, deny him farm, use hard CC.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Karmashock » August 17, 2013 6:37pm | Report
Loki's ult is BS and there needs to be anti invisibility items in the game. Maybe make sentry wards reveal him. But really, that ult is dumb. Its too much mobility.

Lots of gods have this issue. Fenrir is another example of a god that has one too many mobility abilities. He needs to lose one of his leaps and the CC immunity on his ult needs to be before or after he bites but not both.

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