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Hastened Fatalis - Who and When?

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Raventhor » October 25, 2013 3:13pm | Report
So this item has made me cry in pure bliss. The length is very short, and requires you to not miss to keep it up, but if you land a few hits you just run circles around people. Additionally, if you're faster than your enemy (Artemis with her speed buff comes to mind), they have two choices: Run in a straight line and have you keep hitting them, and eventually catch up, or swerve side to side, and just slow their escape route down.

So what are your thoughts on the item? Who should build it, and when? Does it deserve the hype it's getting?

Personally, I think this singlehandedly made carries ridiculously strong, and made Freya able to kill anything that comes near her.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Tantal » October 25, 2013 4:15pm | Report
Old one is better for Freya in my eyes. It's good for some gods but you sell PP for utility.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Dark Jaw » October 25, 2013 5:17pm | Report
Hastened Fatalis on Bakasura = Nightmare that came to life.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by BestMinionEver » October 25, 2013 5:21pm | Report
Tantal wrote:

Old one is better for Freya in my eyes. It's good for some gods but you sell PP for utility.


The problem with going normal Fatalis on Freya is that it is easier to be juked, and if you miss one pulse the extra dps you get from the attack speed on the old one is wasted. And if you go Hasted Fatalis, you basically can't miss :P

But I know what you mean, the attack speed bonus is really really strong (at least early-mid game).
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Tantal » October 25, 2013 6:00pm | Report
Buff duration of good old fatalis is 3 sec - new one is one sec.

It's allows to kite, it's better to escape or dodge skills and and you get 15% AS on top.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by BestMinionEver » October 26, 2013 4:05am | Report
Tantal wrote:

It's allows to kite, it's better to escape or dodge skills and and you get 15% AS on top.


Not really, because you lose movement speed while attacking, so you have more movement speed with the new one (as long as you hit ofc.

I was negative to the Hasted fatalis on Freya as well, but after playing with it about 5 times I can at least say that I would never pick the old over the new one on her :P
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by YamiPrem » October 26, 2013 8:31am | Report
Vamana's ult needed this item... :)
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Tantal » October 26, 2013 9:23am | Report
BestMinionEver wrote:



Not really, because you lose movement speed while attacking, so you have more movement speed with the new one (as long as you hit ofc.

I was negative to the Hasted fatalis on Freya as well, but after playing with it about 5 times I can at least say that I would never pick the old over the new one on her :P

You move backwards during kiting and that without backpedal penalty via old Fatalis but 10% MS & additional 15% passive MS. That's enough to kite with GoI.

If your opponent jumps/dash/sprint/what ever away - both are no great help. With the old one you have at least the additional 15% MS for 3 sec.

I prefer the new fatalis on melee gods but I will test it more next days.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by BestMinionEver » October 26, 2013 12:49pm | Report
It depends also on how you play her. as jungle I would go Hasted with leaning Freya I would go the normal one I think ;-)

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Keep forgetting that Arena is a thing now. So in arena the old one is superior :-)
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ICEN » October 30, 2013 9:40pm | Report
The new fatalis is basically a chasing item in my eyes as the old fatalis is more of a item you use if you plan on staying on your opponent.

If you are going to hit them over and over and they can't get away get the old fatalis.

if you need to keep up chasing them go with the newer one.
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