Balanced enemy team
Warrior Tabi Blackthorn Hammer Spirit Robe Gauntlet of Thebes Jotunn's Wrath Magi's Cloak
Mainly physical
Warrior Tabi Blackthorn Hammer Spirit Robe Void Shield Breastplate of Valor Magi's Cloak
mainly magical
Reinforced Greaves Blackthorn Hammer Bulwark of Hope Spirit Robe Jotunn's Wrath Magi's Cloak
heavy counter build
Reinforced Greaves Void Shield Pestilence Magi's Cloak Brawler's Beat Stick Titan's Bane
I have all of these builds initially centered around hard cc because that has been a big problem in the majority of my matches lately. In the first three build the 3 spot will be used for Pestilence if needed and then the 4 will be modified with an item for more cooldown if needed. The six in the first 3 builds will be for other situationals instead of Magi's Cloak as needed.
I haven't had a chance to test all builds or even the ones i have tried out of these extensively yet but the mitigation and damage taken numbers have been more acceptable to me. his damage has initially been pretty good as well.
Also, I'm suggesting you not play Odin. He isn't very good right now. DMBrandon has him as a D Tier god. Play Achilles.
Also, I'm suggesting you not play Odin. He isn't very good right now. DMBrandon has him as a D Tier god. Play Achilles.
In arena he can be pretty good. I have been having, mostly, a fine old time with him. Masamune I find different ways to fit in there. Been tinkering trying to find a balanced build that works for me and figuring out where I want to put the pen in. Different depending on if against magic/physical/counter so it's still a process.
I figured because he is really well equipped to do well in arena
I haven't been :P
yeah I usually do the bird bomb but I am finding I need to mix it up or the other party immediately starts to scatter as soon as i'm in the air.
And if you'd like to go bruiser-y, you can also always consider Brawler's Beat Stick instead.
I have a major issue with your Heavy Counter build. You've got 0 CDR in it. He's a heavy ability user. And with your shield, I don't like the Magi's Cloak in there either, though I hear you on the proliferation of CC. So I guess you can run in and just face tank things, but without enough CDR, I just don't see it as being effective in the way that I'd play Odin.
I will say, I will probably never prefer a non-Blink/Ult build for Arena over others. It is his most defining ability, and if you're able to pick and time your targets and use, it's incredibly powerful, specifically for teamfight modes like this. Only time I might back out of getting Relic Dagger (which, also remember is getting a relic CDR buff in the Mid Season patch in less than a week) is if all enemies have an escape, and I see like 3+ Phantom Veils at the start.
And if you'd like to go bruiser-y, you can also always consider Brawler's Beat Stick instead.
with the Pestilence I was already going to be looking if other members built. It's rough in arena because you never know how much of a threat the healing is going to be. Sometimes I feel like I need Pestilence early and Brawler's Beat Stick late and then I have instances on the other team similar to me having an Aphrodite on my team that never even used her linking ability the whole match yesterday. So it can be a ****shoot.
I normally do insert brawler's as my pen late if there is a healer.
I will say, I will probably never prefer a non-Blink/Ult build for Arena over others. It is his most defining ability, and if you're able to pick and time your targets and use, it's incredibly powerful, specifically for teamfight modes like this. Only time I might back out of getting Relic Dagger (which, also remember is getting a relic CDR buff in the Mid Season patch in less than a week) is if all enemies have an escape, and I see like 3+ Phantom Veils at the start.
I do really like his ult, but with all the heavy cc i have been seeing lately, i usually get zerged a lot even with his ring due to lack of group support so I feel like i just have to be ready to watch my own back since my team isn't there for me a lot of the time.
I understand about the cooldowns. I do really like having them for him. I was just so frustrated yesterday when i made the builds I didn't consider it on the heavy counter build for some reason. how about Reinforced Greaves Blackthorn Hammer Breastplate of Valor Genji's Guard Brawler's Beat Stick Titan's Bane for the double counter build.
I will definitely start paying more attention at the start to see if anyone builds phantom right off the bat.
For the most part, I might get Blackthorn + Genji, or Blackthorn + BoV, but not all 3, and not BoV + Genji.
For the most part, I might get Blackthorn + Genji, or Blackthorn + BoV, but not all 3, and not BoV + Genji.
Thanks for the additional input, I will definitely try out those options. What I have is working, but just because it's working doesn't mean what you have won't work better. You have a lot more experience than me with him as well so I really appreciate the extra time you gave giving me those options.