4.13 (Mid-Season Update) Patch Notes - Bran's Thoughts

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I also posted this in the official news thread on the patch, but thought I'd also separate my thoughts, since the list and comments are extensive, and I've been doing this for the past couple of patches.

Official patch notes are here: https://www.smitegame.com/patch-notes-pc-4-13-mid-season/

As something different, I've also recorded an (overlong) video discussion of me and Zilby going over the notes. It's in 2 parts.

The rest of my original writeup is here:

General things

Gameplay Balancing:

New Items

First, a so long to ...you'll be missed and not missed. I'm so conflicted.

Hastened Katana: physical melee only. I did call the power buff...even mentioned 25!!! But didn't guess the 10 pen being dropped. We see a price reduction, back down to 2,300 gold. But this is good.
Hastened Ring: Now this is a bigger change. Also a price drop. Adds a good amount of magical power, which helps offset the limitations of the passive to some extent. Movespeed is reduced to 7%...eh, okay. But the passive is what is going to really affect things. Only triggers on gods, which is nice, but if you're transitioning from minions to aggress on an enemy god, you won't be able to get that simultaneous clear and mobility (which can help you get the jump and surprise an enemy). It only lasts for 4 seconds, with a CD of 30 seconds, which means Freya is getting a huge nerf in this respect. I mean, sure, this is still basically going to be core for her in a burst sense to take down an individual god, but maybe this moves it from being a core 2nd item, to being 3rd or even later...I see her struggling now. We'll see if other items will help keep her relevant. Maybe this makes the revised Heavenly Wings (which will be discussed shortly) become core. I see this being very nice for Chronos and Sol though.
Atalanta's Bow: Alright, this is the slight replacement to Fatalis for Hunters (and maybe also picked up by others, depends). The movement speed stack of up to 28% can be very effective for a juker like Medusa, but I'm not so sure about others. Maybe, in combination with a crit build utilizing Wind Demon, it'll create enough movement speed to simulate a Fatalis effect to a degree. That might be the way my Medusa build goes, though I'll miss Rage if that's the case. Maybe this by itself will be enough.
Toxic Blade: Alright, this is now a possibly solid Solo lane item for basic attackers like Erlang Shen or Osiris when facing a healer like Hercules or Chaac. No power, which hurts it, and probably makes it so it's not an early-game item, but maybe it'll work in the mid-game.
Shaman's Ring (Redesign): evolving item. 60 magical power and 10% move speed, with max stacks (gained by dealing damage to enemy gods) providing a straight 10% damage increase when using abilities. I'm...not so sure about this one. Should be very easy to get full stacks...that's only 5,000 damage. A straight 10% damage boost across the board could be pretty powerful, and the movespeed makes things safer for the wearer...I'm thinking it should be either 100 stacks, or 200 damage per stack, or something...the ease of stacking is too easy and quick to finish the evolution of the item.

Relics (oh God)

Item Changes

Rangda's Mask: 10 stacks = 10% movespeed, 10% CDR, 15 pen. For early snowball Junglers, this is powerful. For 500 gold? Yeesh.
Frostbound Hammer: Nerf to ranged attacks...not all that many hunters were building this though...with Fatalis gone...I guess they had to do this?
Bumba's Mask: healing nerf. Okay.
Bancroft's Talon: Cost increase (only 100). Base lifesteal from 20% to 15%. Okay. Reasonable. It was a bit OP, perhaps, so this is a good change.
Dynasty Plate Helm: Damn. I liked this item. I like it a bit less now.
Celestial Legion Helm: Okay wait, how many stacks can you get? I still hate this item.
Vampiric Shroud: Buff. Add +10 phys protection. I like the sustain application change...makes it viable for waveclear abilities. Last-hitting was a huge pain. However, that's a huge nerf to its max potential (if you were able to last hit the entire wave). That part's a bit ****.
Witchblade: Counter to basic attacking for basic attackers. Cool counter. Does this get picked up more by hunters now? Almost like Asi, but without the pen, and with a bit of health and that attack speed reduction aura. Situational.
Winged Blade: removed attack speed. Okay...I guess? Not like that made it OP, I don't know the reasoning for this.
Relic Dagger: flat relic CD reduction. Also removed attack speed. Seriously though. This is ****. I hate **** tied to relics.
Demonic Grip: Bleh!!! NO MORE ATTACK SPEED REDUCTION. Added move speed? In combination with Shoes and Hastened Ring, that's 15% which is better than the base 10% of Fatalis...but SCREW YOU HI-REZ. Holy hell, Freya is seriously nerfed. She already fell out of favor. Oh thanks for the 5 extra power though...that's so great for her amazing (****) scaling! FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF...
Telkhines Ring: This is **** too. Fine, so it's great for tick damage gods, as long as the stacking can apply to tick/DoT damage. Seriously...3 ticks and you've got 130 magical power from this? Geez. I guess for the price and the lack of other really good stats, okay. This is a sort of boring item though. At least with the previous attack speed, it was an interesting pickup for Poseidon, Chronos and Sol. Now it's...whatever.
Void Stone: Health! I like it. Wish it was just a bit more health though...200 would be good.
Genji's Guard: Okay, this is a more viable magical protection alternative to Breastplate of Valor now. I like this.
Oni Hunter's Garb: never liked this item. Sure, it has its uses. The buff helps. Why am I feeling more and more depressed though?

Gods

WHEW. So...um...overall thoughts? Still really don't like the relics overall. A lot of these other changes feel uninspired. I think they might have thrown balance out the door with this. My poor Freya. I'll expect some changes for her.

Personally, with all of the added effects of damage enhancement and mitigation...it really screws things up the more they add these types of effects. Sure, they WORK. But it's nicer when things are focused on the enemy abilities...those are easily recognizable, and if you're familiar, you know what to expect. Now you start throwing in these mitigation things and all of a sudden no one knows at any one time how much damage you might expect to output. That really screws with the feeling of the game.

Or is that only me?

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Why is bran allowed to make his own thread on the patchnotes, but when I do it gets locked?

In protest I'm not going to read your post Bran. #FightTheSystem

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I think this:
Increased Respawn Health of the Phoenix from 5% → 25%
Increased Max Health when a Phoenix respawns from 40% → 70%

and the removal of hastened fatalis for hunters are the most impactful changes. As well as the jungle nerf.

Turteling under phoenix is now a thing. Games can be thrown easily even if your team has a huge lead and all phoenixes down now.... Longer games are not fun!

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wrote:

Why is bran allowed to make his own thread on the patchnotes, but when I do it gets locked?

It's because Bran forgets to close his BBCode tags.

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It's because Bran forgets to close his BBCode tags.

Ahh!
I guess i can live with it as long as it is to take care of the few unfortunately challenged members.

As long as it didn't have anything to do with me just calling the post "patch notes" with a link and a few comments. :p

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"I challenge you!"

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Placed in original post as well, but I recorded a discussion of Zilby & I talking about the patch notes.

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O_o Prism's hidden YouTuber talents.
You'll need some better recording equipment though. 480p is nothing these days.

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