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I think at least 1 defense item is core REGARDLESS OF WHO YOU'RE PLAYING AS

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Forum » General Discussion » I think at least 1 defense item is core REGARDLESS OF WHO YOU'RE PLAYING AS 34 posts - page 3 of 4
Permalink | Quote | +Rep by spare145 » June 22, 2014 8:41pm | Report
Raventhor wrote:

Eh, the community isn't bad, but you may be facing sub-par people. Are you sub-30, is it ranked, etc? I don't know much. But Hide isn't a horrific idea by any means on hel - you build enough for your burst to be decent and your heals to matter, then build defensively because hel has no innate escapes. You aren't building badly on Hel, that person is just odd.

I also don't know what to make of Janus atm. He's an odd character.

(On a separate note, you *may* need to position better as an adc, it's a lot more weird than other MOBAs. It's harder for people to get to you easily so dodging and weaving is easier, thus the lack of defensive items. My full power builds leave my AMC and Apollo at an average K/D of 3-6. It may just take some getting used to)

But hey, use what works for you! There is no one correct answer. That's why I think it's ridiculous to say 1 defense item on everyone is core, but it's also ridiculous to say it's wrong! Play what works well for you and carry with it - everyone has their own playstyles. :)


I'm level 30, and no I don't play ranked because I hear it's only worse there. And you might not be receiving as much insults because you use full power builds. I don't understand what you mean by "better position yourself." So you normally die 6 times for every 3 kills for you full power build and you still use it? I'm sitting at 1.3 KD ratio right now for Apollo, and that's after those 8 continuous losses from full power builds.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by spare145 » June 22, 2014 11:07pm | Report
And ANOTHER person ****ting on me for building Hide of the Urchin on Bakasura. I'm done. I'm quitting. So ****ing tired of the MOBA community. The community knows nothing but full power builds and expects everyone to build the same.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » June 22, 2014 11:28pm | Report
its not the community. its the playerbase which i do agree with is worse in smite then your avarage moba. however, you should not come in a community run website wanting to do nothing but rant without caring about what people actually gave as agruments against your point of "at least one defense item is core". i will get into that more later but besides that you look like you want to eat people's soul for going full power builds, why? there is nothing wrong with full power builds.

full power builds are actually neccesary for surten characters to work because their job is go in, get kill immidiatly die for a team fight senario, for battle fases before that its unlikely they will buy any defense if they are an assassin or adc. some mages get breastplate of valor or magi's blessing but even they dont do it before finishing 3 items.

i dont disagree with you but i dont agree with you either. full power builds are not bad. a defense item on a damage dealer is not bad. how you stormed in here with caps and completely bogarded what some people said to you and instead went ranting is bad. its not really likable behaviour and people will be less likely to listen to you.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Raventhor » June 23, 2014 12:35am | Report
No I don't die 6 times for every 3, I have a K/D ratio of 3-6 every game, as in, inbetween 3.0 and 6.0

And I don't receive insults because I'm good. But that's a seperate topic.

Like I've been very very positive about your idea and said everyone has their own playstyle but you seem hellbent on dismissing what's been working for everyone, including the professionals who can wipe the floor with any of us, consistently. Just keep an open mind is all. Your way can work for you but not someone else, as we've seen the way we play is not how you want to. Neither is wrong. You can easily play that way if you want, just don't immediately shut down how we play because it doesn't work for you. Carry how YOU want to, and if it works, do it!
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by FaTaLiTyFiReFly » June 23, 2014 12:42am | Report
For mages you get the breastplate, since it gives great cdr aswell.
For tanks... Not even gonna explain this.
For warriors you build defence and get that hammer thing that converts the protect to balance them.
For adc, Idk honestly but magi's always seems like an option, since stuns = death

Or just get combat blink I guess?
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by spare145 » June 23, 2014 6:44am | Report
All4Games wrote:

its not the community. its the playerbase which i do agree with is worse in smite then your avarage moba. however, you should not come in a community run website wanting to do nothing but rant without caring about what people actually gave as agruments against your point of "at least one defense item is core". i will get into that more later but besides that you look like you want to eat people's soul for going full power builds, why? there is nothing wrong with full power builds.

full power builds are actually neccesary for surten characters to work because their job is go in, get kill immidiatly die for a team fight senario, for battle fases before that its unlikely they will buy any defense if they are an assassin or adc. some mages get breastplate of valor or magi's blessing but even they dont do it before finishing 3 items.

i dont disagree with you but i dont agree with you either. full power builds are not bad. a defense item on a damage dealer is not bad. how you stormed in here with caps and completely bogarded what some people said to you and instead went ranting is bad. its not really likable behaviour and people will be less likely to listen to you.


What argument? I have responded to almost every comment. And the only thing people have said was that that extra item is too important to give up. I don't see any actual evidence backing up their claim and I can't seem to make the build work myself. If you don't want to hear a rant, then get out of my thread.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by spare145 » June 23, 2014 6:47am | Report
Also, giving away my account so I can't come back. Level 30, a bunch of gods unlocked, has 400 or so gems from test servers and free gem weakend, 6000 or so unused favors, rank 10 Scylla (but no legendary skin), 40 or so gods at rank 1. Anyone interested, PM me.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by spare145 » June 23, 2014 6:49am | Report
Raventhor wrote:

No I don't die 6 times for every 3, I have a K/D ratio of 3-6 every game, as in, inbetween 3.0 and 6.0

And I don't receive insults because I'm good. But that's a seperate topic.

Like I've been very very positive about your idea and said everyone has their own playstyle but you seem hellbent on dismissing what's been working for everyone, including the professionals who can wipe the floor with any of us, consistently. Just keep an open mind is all. Your way can work for you but not someone else, as we've seen the way we play is not how you want to. Neither is wrong. You can easily play that way if you want, just don't immediately shut down how we play because it doesn't work for you. Carry how YOU want to, and if it works, do it!


I don't know how you can do so well when the matchmaker is supposed to be matching you with people around your skill. Maybe you play with people you know when I always solo queue? It's hard to carry my way when everyone else seems to be against you. I just don't react fast enough to things. The other day, the other team had 3 magical and 1 physical attackers, and I didn't build any physical defense. When the physical attacker attacked me, I died so fast I didn't even have enough time to look at my HP, and I even had combat blink that game. That death costed me the game.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by spare145 » June 23, 2014 10:06am | Report
I just realized from the support section that PM's are currently not working. Oh well, then. I don't suppose anyone actually wants my account anyway.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by UnknownPandr » June 23, 2014 10:56am | Report
spare145 wrote:

I just realized from the support section that PM's are currently not working. Oh well, then. I don't suppose anyone actually wants my account anyway.


Dude, your over reacting. If you don't want to get insulted for your builds I highly suggest you make a party with friends or join a clan. We have a whole section for it here. And lots of mobas have the same problem, people in solo queue are just gunna solo queuers theres no way you can stop that. Thats why its best to always go premade. I never have this problem due to that fact that back then in smite I never solo queued, I honestly forgot the last time I solo queued.

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