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is probably the easiest god in the game to shut down and even easier to kill in most instances, especially 1v1. I wouldn't say that he's weak in every aspect, but simply outclassed in every area except jungle sustain. He requires a lot of luck and timing to play well and is completely reliant on his team to succeed in most cases. IMO, I'd even say he needs a bit of a kit rework to be more useful. He does get points for appearance and voice pack, though.

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How is Thanatos easy to shut down? He has one of the strongest early games in the game.

Edit: He is also one of the gods who counters Fenrir, silencing his , dealing massive burst with from a distance, and being much more than a walking ult bot late game.

EDITEDIT: Also, he's the only god who can get instead of mask, making his early game even more stronger.

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Jumping gods can counter well if played properly though. I would pick a jumping jungler vs anytime. (To juke the , to dodge his , etc)

ps: Not saying that is easy to counter. He is squishy, but you won't get your chance to focus him if he's played well. is a pain.

IMHO most complete god is . Pretty **** in incompetent hands. High skill roof. And alot of viability.

That's just my 2 cents.

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Except a smart won't him and instead uses and to chain stuns then for the kill. Either forcing him to beads or use his ult to escape, and either way it's a victory for the enemy if he has to use either of them, even if neither of them die.

He can be countered by any god with a leap, ranged abilities, or stun. He's simply too squishy to be able to sustain damage and stay in a fight with all damage focused on him.

And yes, combined with his passive gives him good jungle sustain, pretty much all he has. A well-played might not die often due to that, but he can be forced to constantly need to waste his ultimate in order to survive.

He's a bit like in that if he misses his silence and 1, he would be better off leaving until his cooldowns are up again.

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IMHO most complete god is . Pretty **** in incompetent hands. High skill roof. And alot of viability.

I was going to include in the "list" too, but the simple fact that he can actually be played incredibly badly makes him kind of shaky (his skill floor seems to be a bit higher than others). But, he's easily one of my least favorite gods to see on the other team, because he's basically a hard counter to every other ADC and does **** tons of damage to everything.

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We can argue in circles like this. Firstly, saying "Oh, Fenrir would do THIS instead" is not a good argument. For example, I can say "Except a smart won't save his for the and instead silences him and uses to chain stun and 's him for the kill."

Seriously, what kind of logic is that? It's POINTLESS. "Oh, he'll just use this item and this strategy." That's no way to form an argument when we could continue like this for eternity. Here are the facts.

In an autoattack contest, Thanatos wins, mainly because of providing himm better sustain.

In a sustain contest, Thanatos wins. Obviously. More importantly, Thanatos doesn't have to worry about mana use.

In an ability contest, look at this. Fenrir's main damage skill is . His ultimate gives a good chunk of damage but not the best, and unless Thanatos is sitting by an enemy tower, all Fenrir would do is move him.

Thanatos, on the other hand, has a damage skill that counters Fenrir's 75%. What if Fenrir leaps? He just used more mana for a ****py ability and a few autoattacks. Thanatos can literally take that life back with one point-blank .

The FACT is, Thanatos can counter Fenrir's abilities. Fenrir cannot do the same to Thanatos.

So no matter what Fenrir does, No matter what Fenrir does, Thanatos can always counter Fenrir's main damage ability, while still having to use.

And your argument about chain CC is More ******** (tm). Hell, I could say the same thing, and say that Thanatos is slightly better, since his silence lasts longer.

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He can be countered by any god with a leap, ranged abilities, or stun. He's simply too squishy to be able to sustain damage and stay in a fight with all damage focused on him.

Do you even know what you are talking about? has an ability that can literally half a hunter's health in a pre-level 5 fight. And it's ranged. Play Thanatos, invade the enemy jungle, gank a few times, and you will know exactly what I mean.

Also, about your argument about stuns countering him...more ********. Thanatos has nothing to interrupt, and Fenrir does. Fenrir is far more vulnerable to being stunned, since he loses some damage, while Thanatos does not.

Lastly, another bucket of ********. Fenrir is ALSO too squishy to stay in a fight with damage all focused on him. They are BOTH assassins. And EVERY SINGLE GOD, EVEN THE TANKS, WILL DIE IF FOCUSED ON.

I believe I countered every one of your points, with some excess wordiness, for which I apologize.

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BUT THEN BOUGHT BEADS.

In al seriousness; this is petitio principii, it's running in circles. There won't be any conclusive end to the discussion and it'd only be here because of vested interest. The involvement of ego.

I think can beat in a 1v1. I also think can beat in a 1v1. They are very similar in their ability to kill each other. Even in vacuum you can't argue which one is better unless you set very, very strict rules. And even then it'd require number crunching to come to a conclusive end. It's silly to compare same-tier gods.

That's just my 2 cents.

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+1 REP. YOU IS ROCKSTAR! YOU LIKE ROCK! (I disagree with you considering how in every situation Thanatos would have Soul Reap in handy, but you're still playing the part of the peacemaker in a classy way.)

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The FACT is, Thanatos can counter Fenrir's abilities. Fenrir cannot do the same to Thanatos.

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