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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by SoapSuds » January 21, 2014 1:07pm | Report
Sasquatch180 wrote:



Honestly I like to believe that Bastet is a fairly complete god (her abilities synergize well with each other, they do fairly decent damage) aside from needing a new model and maybe having her attacks buffed a bit (while they're fairly damaging compared to other Assassins and how much more bursty they are her damage is a bit...lacking.)


Her abilities are great, but I do feel she needs a bit more of a buff/change to some of her skills. Her ult, in my opinion, is severely lacking. Her model also needs an update. I can't really consider her complete yet until Hi-Rez finally starts showing her some love.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by arka222 » January 21, 2014 6:16pm | Report
With Bastet i think she needs an art rework..both the god model and skills, also movement speed must be increased slightly for her
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Ghraf » January 21, 2014 6:59pm | Report
I never replied by the way, because all Sub can do is speak in hypothetical scenarios in which Thanatos would have made superior plays. Of course, someone making superior plays will always win. Since apparently Death Scythe has a homing device and Fenrir has a debuff that only allows him to run in straight lines. ERMAGHERD, BERST SKIL IN GAEM DERTH SYTH!

Has no one mentioned Hercules yet? I don't really like the way he looks, but he's not in a bad place otherwise.

Also, if Bakasura had a CC he might be up there too.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Ghraf » January 21, 2014 7:04pm | Report
arka222 wrote:

Sure:

- Just 2 minutes back played a game with Vulcan, I had void stone and on xbalanque ulti
ao got focused and smoked me at 50%hp with his ulti, WTH
- As for Athena, I would put it this way, Chang'e cant use her passive in assault and
Athena cant use her ulti in 1v1 joust, isn't it a handicap or glitch in skills..Also,
Athena can use her ulti not to damage enemy but suppose in case u want to defend a tower
she must be allowed to atleast use that ulti for teleport.
- I firmly think that there was no need to change or rework odin, I even had my valuable
'Huntsman' skin..New odin to me is not exceptional but solid in its artwork and smite must
not change him further.

If 'Thiel' thinks my arguments are fare enough..do post :)


Name a mage that can't melt you from 50% in 1-2 hits with the ult.

That's because conquest is the "the" game mode and the others are irrelevant. And Athena is a teamplay-centric god, don't do 1v1 joust with her.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Subzero008 » January 21, 2014 7:14pm | Report
Ghraf wrote:

I never replied by the way, because all Sub can do is speak in hypothetical scenarios in which Thanatos would have made superior plays. Of course, someone making superior plays will always win. Since apparently Death Scythe has a homing device and Fenrir has a debuff that only allows him to run in straight lines. ERMAGHERD, BERST SKIL IN GAEM DERTH SYTH!

That is so hypocritical, it's amazing. You keep mentioning how Fenrir can dodge Soul Reap. and I just say it isn't possible 99% of the time. And you say I'm creating the hypothetical scenarios?

I even mentioned how your repeating of such scenarios make for a pointless argument but you're blind to your own hypocrisy, like most hypocrites. Tsk tsk.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Ghraf » January 21, 2014 7:25pm | Report
Subzero008 wrote:


That is so hypocritical, it's amazing. You keep mentioning how Fenrir can dodge Soul Reap. and I just say it isn't possible 99% of the time. And you say I'm creating the hypothetical scenarios?

I even mentioned how your repeating of such scenarios make for a pointless argument but you're blind to your own hypocrisy, like most hypocrites. Tsk tsk.


I'm not sure what's stopping it from going Ragnarok, Purification Beads, Brutalize and gg'ing him.

And you can only talk about how good all of Thanatos's skills are. So, pot calling the kettle black. I wasn't aware Thanatos was the easiest, most unmissable skillshot god in the game. Or why people can't CC him to prevent him from even doing anything to begin with. But okay, whatever.

If I'm blind to hypocrisy, then so are you. Please tell me that none of your arguments were hypothetical so I can laugh.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by alphacar » January 21, 2014 8:02pm | Report
Though this was mention earlier, I think Sun Wukong is a complete god. His character model looks cool(better than the old scary wukong) and his moveset is good. Plus he is a good first pick in league.


Also about the Fenrir and Thanatos argument, it all really just rely on the player skill. If this is gonna keep on going then... FIGHT FIGHT KISS KISS.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Subzero008 » January 21, 2014 8:17pm | Report
Ghraf wrote:



I'm not sure what's stopping it from going Ragnarok, Purification Beads, Brutalize and gg'ing him.

And you can only talk about how good all of Thanatos's skills are. So, pot calling the kettle black. I wasn't aware Thanatos was the easiest, most unmissable skillshot god in the game. Or why people can't CC him to prevent him from even doing anything to begin with. But okay, whatever.

If I'm blind to hypocrisy, then so are you. Please tell me that none of your arguments were hypothetical so I can laugh.

I'm not hypocritical because I never claimed I did not speak in hypothetical scenarios, and I even said in my second reply:
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"We can argue in circles like this. Firstly, saying "Oh, Fenrir would do THIS instead" is not a good argument. For example, I can say "Except a smart Thanatos won't save his Soul Reap for the Brutalize and instead silences him and uses Fist of the Gods to chain stun and Death Scythe's him for the kill."

Seriously, what kind of logic is that? It's POINTLESS. "Oh, he'll just use this item and this strategy." That's no way to form an argument when we could continue like this for eternity."

I said beforehand that going on like that was pointless, but you went on.

Also, stop your sophistry. You are more intelligent than this. I can say Thanatos players would also buy beads. I can also say Fenrir is also easily shut down by CC. Both statements are true, but they don't form a good argument.

Lastly, just because a god has a bunch of skillshots doesn't make him worse than another. Skill floor is not a factor in a god's power level, or else Fenrir would be the strongest god in the game. And once you play the game often enough, you rarely miss, like, ever, unless the opponent pops something specifically designed to counter that. That is the very definition of a skill floor: An obstacle you must bypass to play the god as he was designed to be played.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by arka222 » January 21, 2014 8:32pm | Report
Ghraf wrote:


Name a mage that can't melt you from 50% in 1-2 hits with the ult.

That's because conquest is the "the" game mode and the others are irrelevant. And Athena is a teamplay-centric god, don't do 1v1 joust with her.


-For the first part I would say following gods cant melt u from 50%hp (void stone or not) with their ulti alone: ofcourse u can use skill combinations or special cases but not in one shot.

agni, aphro, change, chronos, Freya, hel, isis, Nuwa, poseidon, zhong kui even zeus

Gods who can melt with ulti r He Bo and Anubis but they put their life at stake while doing so!

- I highlighted the point handicap or glitch in skills and was referring to 1v1 just as an example , conquest is the game u need to defend the most. Also, Athena's ulti is not practically a damage weapon when used on a hunter. The other day I ultied with her on thor when he was about to lift for ulti only to know that we simultaneously landed, with me on his lifting spot not the landing spot..total waste
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by arka222 » January 21, 2014 8:40pm | Report
On the matter of Thanatos v Fenrir: I think its unfair to compare them or any two gods for that matter..only similarity b/w them is that they r both assassins. U need skills to play well with both of them. To point out with playing experiences that I have been easily silenced when I played fenrir by many gods. On the other hand, thanatos to me is a more clean finisher, its hard to kill a tank at low hp returning to base but thana can do it easy
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