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Not really my fault that Penta's being a douchenozzle.

Anyway, I had more games with New Arachne. Newrachne. Her clear is still bad, her damage is good, but the problems remain. Unless you're attacking people who frankly deserve to die, like walking in the jungle at half health or tower diving at early levels, etc, you aren't going to get kills.

Clear: 2/5. Low AoE damage cripples this one. Your sustain is not the best, and gods who could clear faster don't even need the sustain in the first place. Overall, her clear is below average. It's not as bad as Bacchus, but it still isn't the best in the world.

Ganks: 1/5: You can burst people down, but unless they do something incredibly stupid, you can't gank for ****. People can pop their escapes as soon as they're slowed, and that's...pretty much it. What makes this even worse is how is blocked by minions, on top of being your only hard CC.

Early Presence: 2/5. Your inability to gank combined with your weak early game damage makes you pretty bad at any early game engagements, again, outside of killing a guy at <25% health, which any other assassin can do.

Late Presence: 2/5. You aren't Mercury, no one screams in fear with encountering Arachne late game. She has damage, and as long as you respect that damage, there's little to fear from Arachne late game.

Teamfight Presence: 3/5. She can extend CC pretty nastily with , but she doesn't bring much else to a teamfight other than finishing people off with her damage - and her forced reliance on autoattacks with no gap closer means she can't do that unless faced with really, really uncoordinated teams.

Objective Control: 3/5. Her Web is overrated as ****. The slow is what makes it even decent, and even then, people can just brush it off or ignore it entirely, especially when they can burst you down if you show up. The Web is better than nothing, and I suppose she is a decent duelist, but the whole lack of mobility combined with generally low damage means that you can't ward people off since they're not afraid of you.

Overall: 2.16/5. Below average, mediocre at best, trash tier at worst. Just bad.

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I absolutely entirely disagree with a lot. But the one thing I'll hone in on is late presence.

She can't be dueled by most assassins. That coccoon steroid seems average at best - you have to land all 3 AA on the same target - but it's absolutely easy to do with your AS is ridiculous. Her ult is a free immunity that leads into a HUGE nuke (inc Arachne Athena combo), and her healing on her 1 is strong.

I've yet encounter someone from the clan OR in game who has not absolutely hated facing arachne, and I've not seen an autolock on my team do badly. The *only* negative arachne I have seen this far, built frostbound hammer and adventurer's blade as their first two items.

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I only played a few practice matches to check out Arachne, Odin, Kukulkan, and the Odysseus's Bow.

Arachne seems decent, but I'm not very confident in my ability to do good with her at the moment. I'll need to work with her a bit more.

Odin seems intense. A 2+1+3 combo with him, while it might not be a smart idea to use everything that quick, seems pretty epic. Granted, again, I was practicing against bots, but the damage he put on the squishy bots was very high. You'd probably want to play him a little smarter in an actual match, but the way the practice match turned out, which doesn't mean much, showed that he will probably have some pretty nice damage potential in an actual match if played that way.

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Personally for Arachne, I think it is definitely an upgrade from her old kit.

But I certainly feel, generally, the reworks are a bit dull, simplified and does not contribute to any unique experiences. I do not like that the only motivation and goal they had for reworks was the balancing issue, resulting to "slapped together" kits, named after a god, characters.

I think when they remade Arachne, they were just thinking assassin, and were not thinking of Arachne, the character itself, the feel of the creature/person itself. IDK, I just feel a little bit dissapointed.

Everything is turning into smushy lackluster characters.

-Arachne ult is an almost duplicate of Sun Wukong's, but duller

just my opinion

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I can attest in real matches, both using and getting hit by odin's new Shield Jump combo is absolutely devastating.

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Odin really does seem ridiculous. I only played one game with him so far, but this shield chunks people like crazy.

While I was playing Arachne, I can attest that his level TWO shield-jump combo deals about half of Arachne's health. It's ridiculous.

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Yeah, first real game of the patch, and I get Odin in Assault.

Just damn. You two were right. His 2+1 combo is insane. I was killing squishies left and right with it. It's pretty insane, lol.

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Anyone tried Odysseus Bow on Merc already? Would like to know if you can trigger more than 1 chainlightning with his 1. Also: Is the damage worth the price?

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Anyone tried Odysseus Bow on Merc already? Would like to know if you can trigger more than 1 chainlightning with his 1. Also: Is the damage worth the price?

you can't chain more than one lightning as it can only be activated once every 1 second ( i think this was aimed at merc and golden bow specifically)

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you can't chain more than one lightning as it can only be activated once every 1 second ( i think this was aimed at merc and golden bow specifically)

Makes sense. Thank you ;)

Anyone made any experience with this item? Is it really that garbage or some gods profit from it?

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