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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by SoapSuds » July 24, 2014 2:36am | Report
I don't want to take away from Jordenito's Balance Discussion, but I did want to talk specifically about passives and which gods/goddesses could use a new passive or work on their current ones.

If we especially look at a lot of recent gods, they have some pretty extravagant and sometimes powerful passives ( Scylla, Osiris, Janus, etc), but then we have some of the older ones that have weaker ones or some that are just plain useless/don't belong. Not to say that all of the older gods/goddesses have useless passives, as we see with gods like Ao Kuang and He Bo, but I do feel like a lot of the newer skills and passives added are making some older ones seem a bit outdated for the current state of this game.

For example, here are a few that I've seen people mention when it comes to iffy passives on their respective gods, as well as some of my own opinions:

Ymir: Frostbite
Ne Zha: Immortal Spirit
Sobek: Blessing of the Nile
Vulcan: Heavy Shot
Eset: Funeral Rites

I'm sure there are others that could be talked about, so which passives do you think should be looked at fixing up, and how?
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Jordenito » July 24, 2014 2:55am | Report
Add Athena's Reach and Ares' Blessed Presence to that list.

Isis' passive isn't that bad. It keeps her in lane for longer, and is useful in drawn out engagements. Plus, and people tend to forget that, she shares the protection stolen with Dispel Magic via her passive, and I consider that a part of her passive, so, all-in-all, it's a team-oriented passive with two, good uses.


We'll reach those gods in the balance thread when we do. People can talk about it here, but I won't. I myself have already planned a rework for Vulcan's passive and a rework for Ares, but I'm waiting for us to get to them.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by BestMinionEver » July 24, 2014 4:26am | Report
Ymir's passive isn't bad, all supports should have that. So many support players just use their cooldowns, then just run around maybe blocking some damage while waiting for their cooldowns to be back up again :p
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Raventhor » July 24, 2014 4:30am | Report
I'd like to toss in Chronos' Passive, which isn't a passive - it's literally just forced separation of his Accelerate.

Otherwise...Guan Yu needs a buff to his, and all that you have listed.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Firraria » July 24, 2014 4:43am | Report
What about Aphro's passive? That passive is just terrible, it could so easily just be added on to her kissy smooch smooch, but hi-rez was too lazy to make a real passive I guess.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Mordo » July 24, 2014 5:15am | Report
TBH i like Ne zha's passive he/she can do really well in 3v3 or solo lane if they get the stacks, Ymir's make him an awesome Jungle and Isis' make her really good for team fights
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by dacoqrs » July 24, 2014 5:16am | Report
If they added a slow to Athena's Reach,it would help, I would think.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by SoapSuds » July 24, 2014 3:29pm | Report
Jordenito wrote:
Isis' passive isn't that bad. It keeps her in lane for longer, and is useful in drawn out engagements. Plus, and people tend to forget that, she shares the protection stolen with Dispel Magic via her passive, and I consider that a part of her passive, so, all-in-all, it's a team-oriented passive with two, good uses.


I don't disagree. I don't think it's a bad passive like some of the others. It definitely has it's uses, though I guess some people don't like it much because at times, it doesn't seem like it visibly does much. However, I do also agree with other people I've seen talk about it, in that it's not great like some other passives, but then, I guess that could be because some other passives may be a bit too powerful.

I just put it on the list because I've recently seen some people talking about how it's useless, so I figured I'd add it to the discussion.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Jordenito » July 24, 2014 10:49pm | Report
Not all passives should be on par, much like not all skills and ultimates should be on par. Compare Darkest of Nights to World Weaver or Across The Sky, and there's no competition.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Raventhor » July 25, 2014 12:24am | Report
Which is true - some gods, whose basic skillsets outweigh others, will have comparatively weaker ultimates, and if a god is balanced, the passive may not need to be buffed. But several gods DO have bad passives and ARE bad, because their kit is very mediocre or underwhelming and the passive does nothing to supplement it.
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