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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ThePerfectPrism » June 15, 2015 10:50am | Report
Zilby wrote:

Eset has no strong escapes and can be countered heavily by certain counterpicks, she's not as versatile as S ranked gods should be.


Like the S Tier description says, " Little to none flaws, but the pros are better than it " sort of thing.


Eset has no strong escape? She has a important ult for teamfights and objective control, a silence, a stun, a speed buff, and a magical debuff ? Plus a lot of damage ? Couldn't S tier fit her ?
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Zilby » June 15, 2015 1:48pm | Report
Her ability to be countered as heavily as she is I believe is enough of a flaw to knock her to A or A+, but that's just personal opinion (I'm not saying Eset is bad, she's my second favorite mid laner, I just think at a pro level she's not S tier).
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Talenhiem » June 15, 2015 1:59pm | Report
I personally would support a raise, mainly since she brings, in my opinion, the most utility of any midlaner. Even if she falls behind, loses lane, gets a gold disadvantage, and/or DCs and comes back later, she can still pull her weight in any given scenario - she can reliably clear even when underleveled since she can clear the entire wave at level 4, her Wing Gust still provides her with good movement to kite enemies, chip some damage for an incoming ally to work with, dodge projectiles, and to be relatively distracting. Spirit Ball is still an insane long-range stun and pseudo-zoning tool, Dispel Magic can provide possibly crucial extra magical damage + aura protections for her allies, and Circle of Protection still brings a 10% damage reduction and significant healing if charged up. She also has good kill potential in-lane, due to good CC, a versatile ult, the ability to waveclear completely at level 4, and a good poke, as well as being able to lock down mid harpies better than most midlaners.

However, she still certainly has problems, mainly since she has no insta-escape, her best way being a combination of Dispel Magic slow, Spirit Ball stun, Wing Gust movement increase, and Circle of Protection damage reduction, heal, and zoning potential. As such, an OOM or cooldown'd Eset can easily be jumped on, especially since they usually buy Sprint over Blink. Her damage can also get somewhat lackluster late-game.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ThePerfectPrism » June 15, 2015 5:30pm | Report
Talenhiem wrote:

I personally would support a raise, mainly since she brings, in my opinion, the most utility of any midlaner. Even if she falls behind, loses lane, gets a gold disadvantage, and/or DCs and comes back later, she can still pull her weight in any given scenario - she can reliably clear even when underleveled since she can clear the entire wave at level 4, her Wing Gust still provides her with good movement to kite enemies, chip some damage for an incoming ally to work with, dodge projectiles, and to be relatively distracting. Spirit Ball is still an insane long-range stun and pseudo-zoning tool, Dispel Magic can provide possibly crucial extra magical damage + aura protections for her allies, and Circle of Protection still brings a 10% damage reduction and significant healing if charged up. She also has good kill potential in-lane, due to good CC, a versatile ult, the ability to waveclear completely at level 4, and a good poke, as well as being able to lock down mid harpies better than most midlaners.

However, she still certainly has problems, mainly since she has no insta-escape, her best way being a combination of Dispel Magic slow, Spirit Ball stun, Wing Gust movement increase, and Circle of Protection damage reduction, heal, and zoning potential. As such, an OOM or cooldown'd Eset can easily be jumped on, especially since they usually buy Sprint over Blink. Her damage can also get somewhat lackluster late-game.


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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Talenhiem » July 5, 2015 7:10am | Report
Gonna bump this to try and get some discussion on how recent updates have changed the list. I personally have nothing to say since I was gone for a little over a week, and will be leaving again shortly after this.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by FemFatalis » July 5, 2015 8:00am | Report
Imo, the game is particularly unbalanced and confusing right now. I'm waiting until LAN to come to any conclusions whatsoever.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by ThePerfectPrism » July 12, 2015 10:44pm | Report
I agree with Fem. However, with this Mid-Patch notes, I would say Chang'e will be more viable now. ( Kind of, depends how you see it.) A is now Chang'e's spot IMO.

Ravana should be classified has B+/A- IMO. He isn't the strongest ( EVEN WITH THIS NEW PATCH ) but he is more utility based and more "survivable" then before. However, I would still like a Hercules, Sun Wukong, Osiris or Bellona in my team, instead of him.

Nox got a "buff", but she's still a 100-0 or Nothing god, so she stays where she is.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Janitsu » July 13, 2015 2:16pm | Report
that triple starting post

want that banner you are longing for in the op?
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Stuke99 » July 13, 2015 9:01pm | Report
I love how Dm thinks that the Heartseeker nerf was enough to kill Loki, that's what Loki wanted you to think. Loki is still very viable and I think he's balanced maybe A rank because Loki can have a 50/50 chance of either being so weak he's useless or he's so powerful people want him nerfed to oblivion.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Talenhiem » July 22, 2015 12:06am | Report
Janitsu wrote:

that triple starting post

want that banner you are longing for in the op?

blame my smogon upbringing ;_;

I would love a banner if possible; I'm good with pretty much anything, but I think something along the lines of the official SMITE logo would fit the best.

it's 3 in the morning so I'm heading off for sleep now, will look at the meaningful posts later.
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