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Let's Make Patch Notes - Guardians

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Poll Question:


What Topic Shall we Pick?
Geb's Shield
Ares' Uselessness
Hades' Uselessness
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Subzero008 » February 1, 2014 5:22am | Report
The tanks in this game have a few problems. Note that this is addressing the gods officially labeled as guardians. Even if we decide in the end that Hades is better off as a mage, he'a labeled as a guardian, and will therefore be discussed here. So don't ask where Odin or Vamana is.

The poll will be there to decide our next topic. I don't know who our first topic is, nor will I bring it up, since I want to encourage some initiative from the community.

Here are the goals we have currently:

Geb: Make his earth shield more counterable, give incentive to rank it.

Ares: Make him more viable as a Guardian or Bruiser or something. Make him less counterable. (Finished, page 7)

Hades: Make his ultimate less counterable and fix other issues with his kit, change his passive to something worthwhile.

Why?

Geb: Late game, shield has ZERO counterplay as the invincible Anubis destroys your entire team.

Ares: He is completely useless as a guardian outside the laning phase and beyond a niche use in Arena, he is terrible in general.

Hades: Same as Ares, his kit is not very Guardian-like, he needs a firm hand in either direction. His ultimate is also stuck in a design trap.

How?

Geb: Give his shield something that instantly breaks it.

Ares: Give him some decent hard CC and some self-sustainability.

Hades: Give him a general makeover.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by arka222 » February 1, 2014 5:27am | Report
-I have not much issues with Ares he is a solid god, his only problem is when people use beads/Aegis, it renders him blunt. But their is a lot more to him then just his ulti on which people don't capitalize often. Its like his ulti is so strong tat his other skills seem a bit low on potency, which is not the truth. In a competitive arena game if he can get only 1 ulti right its almost game over.

- Geb shield is nerfed and its alright now.

- Hades has issues with his basic attacks for long. I would like to learn from other people first.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Subzero008 » February 1, 2014 5:34am | Report
arka222 wrote:

-I have not much issues with Ares he is a solid god, his only problem is when people use beads/Aegis, it renders him blunt. But their is a lot more to him then just his ulti on which people don't capitalize often. Its like his ulti is so strong tat his other skills seem a bit low on potency, which is not the truth. In a competitive arena game if he can get only 1 ulti right its almost game over.

- Geb shield is nerfed and its alright now.

- Hades has issues with his basic attacks for long. I would like to learn from other people first.

1: Ares is practically useless against a competent team outside the laning phase, as his only CC is single-target and the rest of his is worthless.

2: It's still broken late game when he gives another health bar to someone. It needs to be nerfed to be less of a "tank carry" ability.

3: Its not just his basics, believe me.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Subzero008 » February 1, 2014 5:37am | Report
1:1:1 on the poll so far.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Setolino » February 1, 2014 5:46am | Report
Geb Shield nerf was actually pretty ok. It still need some work, but all in all it is fine. I voted for Hades Uselessness.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » February 1, 2014 5:50am | Report
make ares a magical bruiser focused on solo lane.

give him a guan you effect on his 3 and make it do more minion damage. make him a sort of magical vamana by changing his passive to be more like vamana's but instead of % make build it on the numbers of defence focused items he has.

give his ult a complete do over. i love his ult but realisticly it is almost impossible to balence because its either OP or UP or useless.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by arka222 » February 1, 2014 5:55am | Report
I think Ares passive is unique and special to him. Agree on his 3 though. It should do more minion damage. In conquest, i have seen people play ares with Hand of the Gods and Watcher's Gift at the start and do exceptionally well.

My vote Hades
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Dark Jaw » February 1, 2014 6:02am | Report
I think we should discuss about Ares. He has been in a tough spot on Conquest, but a great pick on Arena. But, wouldn't you mind talking about Hades as well? Both are on a tough spot.
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arka222 wrote:

I think Ares passive is unique and special to him. Agree on his 3 though. It should do more minion damage. In conquest, i have seen people play area with hands of the gods and Watcher's Gift at the start and do exceptionally well.

My vote Hades

Unique strong and misleading. My suggestion doesn't change that much about it. I gives him more option's of items and will mean we get less full aura ares's who didn't buy breastplate for ult cdr. I would say give him 30 magical power as a trade of though.

Ult still needs to change

EDIT: balencing is focused on concuest not arena. Both differ a lot in sense of meta, balence and play style.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by arka222 » February 1, 2014 6:15am | Report
All4Games wrote:


Unique strong and misleading. My suggestion doesn't change that much about it. I gives him more option's of items and will mean we get less full aura ares's who didn't buy breastplate for ult cdr. I would say give him 30 magical power as a trade of though.

Ult still needs to change

EDIT: balencing is focused on concuest not arena. Both differ a lot in sense of meta, balence and play style.


If xbalanque gets +5 power per kill multiply 6 as passive. Then ares passive is too strong. Reduce it to 15-20 power per aura item.

EDIT: and look at Sobek passive, +5 x 3 physical protections the whole game!
EDIT: and tat too for only 4 seconds!
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