Patch 6.9 ~ Queen of the Underworld ~ Prism's Thoughts

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Link to the official patch notes is here : https://www.smitegame.com/news/queen-of-the-underworld-update-notes

New Goddess, Persephone

Class

Mage

Intended Role

Mid, Solo

Kit Features

Basic Attack that activates her plants in a Radius

New forms of CC

Farming mechanic for extra gold

Pet Evolution

New Jump Mechanic

Teamfight Ultimate

Skills

POMEGRANATE SEEDS

Persephone gains Pomegranate Seeds when her Harvest plants wither. If she has more than 25 Seeds she can spend these to resist death, continuing to fight for 8s but dealing 50% reduced damage. Additional Seeds are sold when she enters the fountain for 3 gold a Seed. Persephone can hold 100 Seeds.

This is a really interesting passive. It benefits players who prefer a sustain type of buildcrafting and playing, since the longer you can mantain in lane the more you can earn gold and more easily you can stack the passive to receive your extra 8 seconds.

BONE RUSH

Persephone calls forth a skeletal warrior of the underworld. This warrior charges forward 35 units or until it comes into contact with a god. It charges with such force that when it stops it topples, sending bones flying forward and damaging enemies in its path. The skull from this warrior flies forward and becomes a Harvest Skull when it lands.

Damage : 100/160/220/280/340 (+80% of your Magical Power)
Cost : 60/65/70/75/80
Cooldown : 12s

This skill has 2 target boxes. The first one is the rush the sketon does, and the second one is an instant explodion rectangle that can be adjusted, pending enemy presence. After the explosion, the skeleton's skull flies forward and it works as her second ability, Harvest, which is a really cool mechanic that allows a lot of possible zoning and teamfight strategies. This is her waveclear, coupled with her 2nd ability's Stage 2 form.

HARVEST

Persephone places a Skull on the ground (max 10) and activates them with Basic Attacks. She stores up to 6 Skulls. When activated it heals Persephone. After 4s it turns into a Sprout that explodes, damaging and slowing enemies. After 24s it turns into a Flower that chases down enemies for 3s before biting them. Enemies recently hit by Harvest take reduced damage from additional hits stacking 3 times. After activation or 120s they wither.

Heal : 22/29/36/43/50 (+10% of your Magical Power)
Explosion : 60/110/160/210/260 (+70% of your Magical Power)
Slow : 30%
Bite : 70/125/180/235/290 (+80% of your Magical Power)
Reduced Damage : 50/75/87.5%
Cost : 18/21/24/27/30
Cooldown : 8s

This skill has 3 Stages. First, we have the skull that heals her. the second stage is a small plant that explodes in an AoE and the third stage it's a monster plant that chases enemies for a short duration and bites them. Overall really interesting mechanic and I'm curious as to how it'll work in practice. Imagine locking people down with her ult (We'll get to that in a bit) or even , then a drops, you can have enough time to plant most of your Harvest stacks on the area, and you can use your third ability to activate them all at once, which will allow you to deal major damage! Remember that to activate these you either need to hit them with a basic attack or hit them with her third ability. Overall amazing ability, and I take my hat off for PomPom for coming up with such a kit.

FLOURISH

Persephone floods the ground around her with life giving energy that propels her from the ground directly forwards or backwards; based on the direction she is moving. Harvest plants inside the area immediately grow to their next stage and activate. After using this ability the next Harvest cast is pre-germinated and spawns as a Sprout.

Range : 45
Cost : 70
Cooldown : 15/14/13/12/11s

This is her jump. She can jump foward or backward, depending on the direction she's walking towards. If she jumps next to any Harvest seeds they'll instantly evolve into the next form and be activated. And the next Harvest you throw out will instantly grow into Stage 2. This ability has an AoE but it doesn't deal damage (like some jumps do). This is a really gorgeous skill and it's even crazier while in combination with her kit. Have I mentioned she can backward jump through walls? Cuz she can.

GRASP OF DEATH

Persephone conjures a mass of Entrapping Vines that she throws forwards, Entrapping the first enemy god or wall it touches. Entrapped gods are crippled, rooted, and have reduced Attack Speed. Binding Vines then spawn from the Entrapped target that seek nearby enemy gods. Upon finding an enemy god it Binds them, crippling them and preventing them from moving away. Entrapping Vines are destroyed if hit by 5 Basic Attacks, ending all effects.

Damage : 195/270/345/420/495 (+75% of your Magical Power)
Vine Damage : 65/90/115/140/165 (+30% of your Magical power)
Attack Speed Reduction : 20/22.5/25/27.5/30%
Duration : 5s
Cost : 70/75/80/85/90
Cooldown : 90s

This ultimate has a global range and will only stop when it hit an enemy god or a wall. It encapsulates the enemy hit, creating a jail that takes 5 basic attacks to destroy, while damaging and locking enemies inside. Enemies caught by the vines can't move away from the AoE, they can only move towards the center and strafe around the radii of the center. This is a crazy control ultimate that makes Persephone the newest Smite Control Mage and I'm more than excited to use this.

Okay, with Persephone out of the way, let's look at item changes and balance (Meaning we won't be talking about Bug Fixes)

Item Balance

Arondight

Buff

Increased Physical Power from 55 to 65

Fair buff, this item was missing something more to justify it's purchase, which I now believe the goal was met with this buff.

Fail-Not

Nerf / Shift

Decreased Critical Strike Chance from 25% to 20%.
Fixed an issue where the buff was applying to non-god targets.

The shift was mostly to adjust the fact that was applying to minion, Gold Fury, Fire Giant, etc, which wasn't the intended use of the item, but Hi-Rez still considered this a bug (I consider this a shift tbh). The Crit Chance reduction is nice, this item felt it gave waaaaaaay too much crit chance for the price (Plus CDR and the passive)

Pridwen

Nerf

Decreased Physical Protections from 40 to 30.
Decreased Magical Protections from 40 to 30.

While I'm sad to see a nerf, it was needed. This item was good in way too many situations for it not receiving a justified nerf.

Dynasty Plate Helm

Nerf

Decreased Magical power from 55 to 50
Decreased Physical Protection from 35 to 30

The nerf is minimal, doesn't even feel like it'll truly change the item or who could use it. I would call this insignificant.

Emerald Ring

Shift

Increased Magical power from 20 to 25
Removed 3% Movement Speed

This is a big shift. Most of the rings will now not give the user extra movement speed, but they'll give extra power. While movement speed doesn't translate to power well enough, let's see how this affects the meta. It does concern me this is just justifying double hunter meta even more.

Enchanted Ring

Shift

Reduced cost from 1200 to 1100
Removed 5% Movement Speed

Like said above, it's a big shift. Instead of increasing power this one just decreases prices, which isn't also a good translation for the movement speed removal.

Demonic Grip

Shift

Increased Magical Power from 65 to 75
Removed 7% Movement Speed

This item isn't OP anymore on magical ADCs, this just feels like any other item now. Let's see if people start building towards different paths.

Telkhines Ring

Shift

Increased Attack Speed from 20% to 25%
Removed 10% Movement Speed
Passive – Increased Damage Magical Power Scaling from 10% to 15%

More attack speed and more damage. I think this item isn't worth building anymre, but let's see what happens

Shaman's Ring

Shift

Increased cost from 2400 to 2500
Increased Magical Power from 100 to 110
Added 10% CDR
Removed 10% Movement Speed
Passive – Increased Duration of Debuff Mark on enemies from 5s to 10s

This item doesn't make stupidly fast anymore, and I like it. I really do enjoy seeing the 10% CDR but I think they overturned the passive, which will probably see nerfs in the future.

Katana

Nerf

Decrease Movement Speed from 5% to 3%

Really happy to see the tree getting adjusted. It overturned the AA assassins by a landslide, so I'm truly glad that it's getting nerfed

Thousand Fold Blade

Nerf

Decrease Movement Speed from 8% to 5%

Same as above, happy for the nerf.

Masamune

Shift

Increased Health from 100 to 150
Decreased Movement Speed from 10% to 7%

Really happy with the shift. While 50 health doesn't translate at all for the 3% speed reduction to the item, I'm glad that they didn't over buff this. Will still buy on most of my assassins and warriors.

Stone Cutting Sword

Nerf

Decreased Movement Speed from 10% to 7%

wasn't hit that hard, but it was hit. I'm not fully happy that they touched this item but didn't touch or , but oh well

Bumba's Mask

Nerf

Increased Damage Taken from 10% to 15%
Decreased Damage Dealt from 10% to 15%

Like PomPom said, if you wanna be fast, you gotta pay the price for being fast. Really really like these changes.

God Changes

Anubis

Buff

Stats:
Increase Base HP from 350 to 380
Increase Base HP Per Level from 66 to 70

:
Decrease Mana Cost from 70/75/80/85/90 to 60/65/70/75/80
Decreased Cooldown 15/14/13/12/11s to 14/13/12/11/10s

While I don't see a reason to buff (If you try to make a character that's all about DoT damage extravaganza that's supposed to be a really risky pick viable, you're balancing the game incorrectly) and I hope this doesn't completely skew the game in favor of .

Arachne

Nerf

:
Decreased Base Healing per Tick from 10/20/30/40/50 + 10% to 8/16/24/32/40 + 8%

Decreased Slow from 25% to 15

I really do enjoy these nerfs. It'll make sure is still somewhat strong, but not the powerhouse she was for the past patches.

Chiron

Buff

Stats:
Increased Base Attack Speed Per Level from 1.1 to 1.4

:
Increased Slow from 25% to 25/27.5/30/32.5/35%

Huge buff thet really needed. His attack speed should match most hunter's late game, and the slow buff is really potent, considering is the fastet hunter by default (380 mvm speed). Really excited to play again.

Chronos

Nerf

:
Decreased initial Movement Speed from 25% to 15%

won't be as fast when he activates this, but he'll still zoom around as this ability progresses like he normally does. Happy for this change

Hera	Buff Polymorph: Increased damage from 60/105/150/195/240 to 80/120/160/200/240 Hi-Rez had to buff the true Queen! At least it's only her early game damage, which truly was lacking from Polymorph. While I don't see the need for this change, I like it cuz I like playing Hera.

Isis	Nerf Circle of Protection: Decreased Mitigations from 25% to 20% at all ranks Small nerf so Eset isn't the craziest character in the game like she is when she's powerful. Don't really care for this change.

Janus

Buff

:
Decreased Cooldown from 10s to 9s

Not a fan of seeing a lot of ' in my games, but he did deserve a buff, he was underwhelming compared to other characters, like , and .

Jormungandr

Nerf

:
Fixed a bug where the bonus damage of this ability was not benefiting from magical power scaling properly
Decreased Magical Power Scaling of the initial hit from 50% to 45%
Decreased Magical Power Scaling of bonus damage from 10% to 5%

Fixed a bug that was making this ability hit for less then intended then nerfed the scaling cuz they noticed the numbers were a bit too much. Classical Hi-Rez

Olorun

Buff

Stats:
Increase Base HP from 400 to 450

:
Base Damage increased from 100/140/180/220/260 to 100/145/190/235/280

was truly feeling lacking in the damage department late game. If he got off a crit, it was a huge damage spike, if he didn't, he felt like he was hitting you with cotton. This should make him feel more rewarding to play and his damage should be more consistent now.

I'm really looking forward to Persephone and more changes to the items in the future. What are your thoughts about the patch? Leave them below!

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About shaman's and Poseidon, he won't be stupidly fast but will be stupidly strong with the CDR and the huge passive XD

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They forgot to nerf HK and GB, both are the biggest problem from katana tree

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Passive will likely receive nerfs in the near future, but that argument also serves for anyone that can now use this item more effectively Myst. Imagine 's with that 10% damage increase.

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Passive will likely receive nerfs in the near future, but that argument also serves for anyone that can now use this item more effectively Myst. Imagine 's with that 10% damage increase.

Not as much as or he bo 1st ultimate or even Merlin skills. Plus you will take 10 secs of extra damage from that really hurts.

Thoth may also benefit from this change since you can fire your shots and even full charge your ultimate.

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Don't have time to do other than this comment and I'm not looking at the changes, but damn your format is nice. Well done Pris.

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Did it for you Bran! It's 80% reusable code so you can play around with it if you feel a bit funky!

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Alright, some quick thoughts here.

Love the , , , and skins. Well done.

seems slightly slow to ramp up, but I'm gonna guess she's potentially massively OP right now in the right situation. Figures.

I'm okay with the buff. I agree with the nerf, and partially with the nerf (but wonder if it could be nerfed just a bit more, maybe a slight decrease in power or something, cuz that 20% CDR is still huge).

So they're completely removing the MS from the ring tree, but they're just decreasing the MS on some of the the katana tree. Well, it's probably for the best. Gives a bit more function to / as well, as Boots + SCS, for example, would equal its MS.

Didn't remove the MS from though...but given the higher price due to the previous nerf, I think this helps balance MS out overall in the early/mid game.

Nice buff to and (don't care in the least about Chiron though). Reasonable nerf to but fairly minor overall.

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i don't know what to think about persephone.
Her Kit seems fun but i have 2 things in mind.
1) you need Time to plant this skulls in order to get your AoE
2) those Skulls are, where they are. So it's fine when you're lanefarming but as soon as you start to roam around...

i don't realize how fast she can plant some skulls but ... yeah. We'll see. i'm not overwhelmed.

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I'm okay with the and buffs. I agree partially with the buff (but wonder if it could be nerfed just a bit more, maybe a slight decrease in power or something, cuz that 20% CDR is still huge).

Pridwen and Fail-Not were nerfed.