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1.Group up
2. CC
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If clocks and you don't hear it and then successfully predict with you deserve to be added to Smite as a god, because there is no way a mortal can see it coming.

Exactly. Even if you do see it happen you can't do it every time, and if you are a split second too soon he doesn't even have to aim for it. A split second too late and you are stunned so you can't use beads until you are at 5% HP and Ao puts a tornado over you...

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ALSO CAN PEPOLE STOP WITH THE GOD DAM HARD CC KILLS X GOD ********, IM SO SICK OF IT WHAT GOD IS NOT COUNTERED BY HARD CC? EVEN THE TANKESEST YMIR OR BACCHUS CAN'T DO ANYTHING IF THEY CAN'T MOVE/USE A SKILL.

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I feel ya. What about the 10 OTHER gods whose only reliable counter is to CC them? You can't get everyone in it.

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1.Group up
2. CC
3.

gg

1. Play scared herd so s ulti or / can shred your team.
2. he buys beads (no one ever seems to bring that up...)
3. Relatively expensive for mages and ADCs who will end up sacrificing DPS, especially if loki is the only Basic reliant enemy.

The fact he removes turrets with his decoy is just absurd. I didnt know he did that. Does it re-lock on loki when he starts hitting his target? If not that is game breaking.

Kill the bleed. I've played far too many who would have gotten away with EEEEEEEP! Hp just to be finished by the bleed. Armor shred sounds fair, and maybe a slight damage nerf.

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1.) You can easily hug the tank and not stand on top of your team. You don't need to be THAT close to be relatively safe.

2.) Few Loki's have beads. Solo Loki's run these days, and so do many jungle variants. That leaves a single slot where Loki has many options he'd like, , , Blink/ perhaps a . I have also seen from time to time. Beads aren't always there, and when it is it has a long cooldown that limits Loki's opportunities. It also fails to mitigate damage, meaning he can quickly get bursted.

3.) Mages already buy all the time to deal with physical menaces and still do good damage. Hunters can too if they so wish. They also have Focused Voidblade available, which is a fairly strong choice even if it is seen on bruisers more often than hunters. This one isn't a guarantee by any means, but it slows Loki pretty well.

I'm fairly sure the tower will keep firing upon the Decoy till it's gone. Don't see the problem really, it lasts a short time and placing it is a dead giveaway you're there. It is also an ability slot that doesn't provide Loki with reliable damage, something he as an assassin would enjoy.

Finally, the bleed is fine. Good damage, but it requires you to use one of your escapes. If you want to max your damage you need to burn both your escapes. There's a clear risk/reward thing going on.

Loki is powerful, but he's more annoying than overpowered. It's just that gods with the capability to take you from 100-0 tend to feel overpowered even when they have rather big downsides.

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I dont think he is OP, in fact you pretty much stated my thought on him in that sentence. I'm just pointing out holes, and a relative lack of counterplay.
I will stipulate to everything but the decoy part. He can easily place a decoy, burst you down and get out before the decoy fades. Nobody else can, or should be able to, do that. Make it so that it turns to loki when he deals damage like everything else.
About beads making it so he cant get bursted, NOTHING makes it so he cant, except aegis, which freezes him so his enemies can get in a better position. And for someone whose only real counter is CC I really dont understand why Beads arent core... They seem like the best defensive option for Loki. Except combat blink which really IS on too long a cooldown.

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This thread has been posted pretty much every week for a few months now, with literally the same responses every time. I'm pretty sure the same person has posted this thread a few times now (Although I don't think it was explicitly Subzero, even if he did comment on one of the threads). If you have a problem, read the previous threads.

I'm not here to argue, but there's a reason Loki isn't a top tier pick jungler.
>Grouping up counters him
>Aegis counters him
>Building pretty much any defensive item counters him
>If you don't build any physical protection you deserve to die. No Breastplate of Valor or Midguardian Mail? Your funeral.
>Combat Blinkng
>Any escape pretty much at all
>Surviving at all past his opener (If you're dying to him this easily, he's pubstomp/noobstomp itemized Loki who's built around burst. Survive anything in the opener and you kill him. No matter what god you are.)
>Rank 2 Eye of Providence counters Loki (It is rank 2 that lets you see invisible right? That's only 600g on something that should already be bought)
>Ethereal Staff, GG mages
>Voidblade
>Being even remotely smart

He's overpowered if you let him be. He has ONE style of play: Wait until you are out of position to kill you. In the same way, if you don't go out of position, it's a 4v5. He's physical Chronos, is what it is. If you're alone, you die. Play passive post 6, and you'll be fine.

People are too easily in the mindset in this game, that if you outplay your lane opponent, you win. If you shove them to the tower, you win. If you show brute strength, you win.
You don't. You win through tactics. pay attention.
In my opinion, Loki is one of the most easily counterable people in the game, it's just not through some gimmick, it's through strategy/common sense.

I say this as a Loki main. I am not defending him to prevent nerfs, I'm arguing in this because as someone who so extensively plays him, I know what works against him. I'm not out to insult you or make you feel inferior, I'm trying to offer options on how to alter play to beat him. Play smart and play safe, and if needed, build an item or two to counter him. Don't worry, in teamfights, he's one of the iffiest gods in the game to have on your team.

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Wait wait wait! Sentry wards/Providence reveals Loki? I've never heard of this, ever. A quick google search says that no, pink wards don't reveal anything other than other wards.

If there are going to be more stealthed gods in the future (and considering how many gods of the night/darkness/trickery there are), I'd like that addition.

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This thread has been posted pretty much every week for a few months now

Isn't that pretty big evidence that something is not right about ?

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Isn't that pretty big evidence that something is not right about ?

actually since it always gets the same awensers and it isn't posted everyday it means that loki is very counterable and that a large number of counters have been told in these treads.

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Ok, I don't find to hard to counter. I think he has to many tools to get kills.

1. He has two of the best gap-closing skills in the game and
2. He has a slow and stun
3. He can tower drive you with zero risk (THIS NEEDS TO BE REMOVED)
4. Even if you survive all that, he has huge bleed.

He is just to hard to shut down. He just needs a few kills (doesn't mater if he dies in the process) get a few items and then he can kill people with ease so he can get more items and kill even more people and get feed.

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1 there are a lot of gods with 2 gap closers that are just as dangerous as loki.
2 he needs 2 skills for it. some gods who are just as dangerous have it in 1
3 fair point
4 his bleed does a bit less damage then his 3 and it isn't a long dot (this one is very opinion based if its to strong or not)

he is very easy to shut down. its just that if he is in the solo lane he can farm for ever with out a probleme because casual junglers suck and never gank solo out of them selfs and if he is in the jungle its the same process with loki just ganking mid a lot.

2 deaths on loki shut him down unless he gets kills.

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