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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Dark Jaw » January 28, 2014 4:00am | Report
1# - Meditation is bad because it takes a slot of your Active slot, and once you purchase it, you won't be able to sell it. That's bad, because late game you won't have Mana problems like in the early game. I recommend you to learn how to manage your mana as Apollo, and maybe pick some Blue Buffs when possible. Always try to avoid Meditation!



2# - The problem I see with Transcendence is the fact that it is like... The Book of Thoth of the Physicals. Tons of mana, not so much power. I wouldn't get it on Loki, because he is made to 1-hit kill people, also he has a Stealth. If he gets on low mana, he can just stealth away and go back.

But I'm not saying Transcendence is useless. It has it's uses. Like on Neith; I really like to get Transcendence when playing her.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by BestMinionEver » January 28, 2014 4:30am | Report
On a lvl 20 Apollo a fully stacked Transcendence is 97 damage (this is without any extra mana items) so it is the item with the highest physical damage in the game. Heartseeker gives 75 physical power for instance.

math behind Transcendence


There is a huge price difference though :P
Transcendence 2700g/97,25 physical power so 28g/physical power (noted that this is at lvl 20, early game lets say lvl 10 with 20 stacks your damage is going to be 71,75 and that would give you 37g/physical power).
Heartseeker 1950g/75 physical power so 26g/physical power
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by GeouZu » January 28, 2014 6:33am | Report
Thank you all for your advices.I will try everything listed here(about transendence and Apollo) when i have time to play conquest(dat school... xD)
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by GeouZu » January 28, 2014 9:46am | Report
Here's what i've got with Transcendence.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by BestMinionEver » January 28, 2014 10:16am | Report
GeouZu wrote:

Here's what i've got with Transcendence.


Nicely done mate ;)

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » January 28, 2014 10:22am | Report
GeouZu wrote:

Here's what i've got with Transcendence.

Switch asi out for hydra's lament. Loki benifits little from life stea since his team fight purpose is trade for a mage by ulting in and killing a mage. Then die to cc.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by GeouZu » January 28, 2014 10:32am | Report
BestMinionEver wrote:



Nicely done mate ;)

Transcendencehype!


Thanks
All4Games--I pretty need asi,because i had to rush in 3v3 etc and i've got triple(without asi i would be dead) but i will try Lament
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by All4Games » January 28, 2014 10:34am | Report
i ment it for 5v5's in team fight's. gives you another part to your burst.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by GeouZu » January 28, 2014 10:36am | Report
All4Games wrote:

i ment it for 5v5's in team fight's. gives you another part to your burst.


I'll try it out right now.Should i get it as 3rd item(after bumba and tabi) or later?
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Subzero008 » January 28, 2014 10:39am | Report
Heartseeker on Loki is good since you get cheap power, but more importantly, mobility. Since Loki's Vanish is time-limited, it's best if you cover as much distance as possible in the time given.

@All4Games:

"ult then die to CC"

Nicely put.
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