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It is hard to say without testing it, but the 4 hit attack chain is definitely something to look into. Because that stuff is a hidden gem for sure, sad that it is neglected by most ppl :(

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Personally, I really enjoyed how Ne Zha functioned in the mid lane when it was a thing. I felt like that was actually one of the few match-ups where it was challenging yet fun for both sides of the mid lane. If we could make adjustments that would compliment both jungle and mid lane, that'd be awesome.

Now, I think all Ne Zha needs to be a picked god is to simply roll back some patches, and then his power will be adequate enough to deal with the power creep in the game.

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Yeah, HFB, that's also a part of the problem. I remember that previously, was really, really strong. Now, not so much. She is not necessarily underpowered or weak, it's just that she doesn't really fit the meta and that the power creep has taken over everything.

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What about his ultimate? I think there's a problem with it. Since it takes quite a while, enemies just set up their CC and damage and he dies instantly. How about trading off some of the power of his ultimate for survivability?

Instead of dealing 40/60/80/100/120 (+30% of physical power) per hit, we can make it 40/55/70/85/100 (+25% of physical power) per hit and make him gain CC immune for 1.5 seconds after landing plus a slight movement speed increase?

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What about just making the decoy able to be detonated?

IMO it should just be the same damage whenever you detonate, because you will still want to keep it up for as long as possible when using it to tank creeps, towers and for when you body block with it :P

For the aimed strike change I like scaling the slow, but I do not think the maxed slow number needs to be nerfed.

is fine IMO especially if you change aimed strike to scale. I know most ppl max aimed strike first, but I have always maxed first and the early game damage is disgusting. But with the slow on aimed strike scaling instead of being flat you would pretty much have to max it even though is more damage.

But is not played that much (except from in pug games, might be played in arena but I have no clue on arena). So I do not think he needs to be nerfed, but making the aimed strike slow scale and doing something with the decoy would be interesting :)

Nix on the detonation idea. That'll just give him more burst damage, which he already has. I don't want to add 220 + 100% of AD to all of his ganks. And if we reduce Decoy's scalings/damage, that'll affect his already-somewhat-poor jungle clear. If we reduce everything else, well, it'll be stupid to level decoy first, of all things.

I lowered the base damage on to make up for the taunt giving him better chasing ability, as well as essentially a free attack during an engagement. The taunt on Decoy is CC as well as damage potential, so I lowered his other CC and damage potential.

Although, maybe I should have lowered the contributions, instead or with the base damage.

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Uh, IMO, Ne Zha is quite viable, just out of the sheer single-target damage he has being better than literally every other assassin. Yeah, he lacks the utility of Mercury and whatnot, but his damage is just disgusting. (His ultimate is literally the single strongest nuke in the game, with better scalings than a spirit's tempest.)

As for what to change, not sure. His damage is just so inconsistent and dependent on crits, I'm not sure what to make of him. I don't play him much (skillshots + lag = no-no), so I honestly have no clue.

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About Loki's , I would give it a longer cooldown. In arena you can only kill loki in a four-five seconds window or you'll lose your target forever.

About I would give the sash thing a dash on his own too. If you don't hit an enemy and use it again, dash to that location. This way he has an escape.

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I don't think that needs a longer cooldown. Sure, it's a powerful ability with quite some versatility, but it could be interrupted. We already suggested taking away the damage reduction and the slow immunity on it, and I think it's a fair trade. It's like saying needs a longer cooldown because it's so powerful, but it could be interrupted (not as easily as Vanish but still). The window of opportunities to kill Loki seems short because most Loki players build CDR and rightfully so.

As for Ne Zha, I've had this thought of making a sort of dash even if he doesn't hit, but I think it's too much. Sure, he has to blow his ult to escape, but I just think it'll give him too many escape options. If we are going to make him dash even if doesn't hit, then IMO the cooldown should be flat 18 seconds and the crit factor should be removed. To somewhat compensate for that, we can half the cooldown if he does hit an enemy god. Regardless, if he doesn't hit, then there should be no damage in the area where he dashed to.

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As for Ne Zha, I've had this thought of making a sort of dash even if he doesn't hit, but I think it's too much. Sure, he has to blow his ult to escape, but I just think it'll give him too many escape options. If we are going to make him dash even if doesn't hit, then IMO the cooldown should be flat 18 seconds and the crit factor should be removed. To somewhat compensate for that, we can half the cooldown if he does hit an enemy god. Regardless, if he doesn't hit, then there should be no damage in the area where he dashed to.

Also, you stand still for a short time, if you really need to get away that's not very useful.