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by Lukatomic updated June 10, 2020

Smite God: Baron Samedi

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Baron Samedi Build

Mid lane starter

Notes After you start this and get gold, get wards if you can.

Notes

After you start this and get gold, get wards if you can.

Build Item Mage's Blessing Mage's Blessing
Build Item Shoes Shoes
Build Item Baron's Brew Baron's Brew

Mid lane core

Notes Mp5 to tick damage for the ultimate

Notes

Mp5 to tick damage for the ultimate

Build Item Shoes of Focus Shoes of Focus
Build Item Book of Thoth Book of Thoth
Build Item Spear of the Magus Spear of the Magus

Mid lane full build

Notes Shamans ring has been removed, so it has been replaced. Pythagoras can be switched with soul gem.

Notes

Shamans ring has been removed, so it has been replaced. Pythagoras can be switched with soul gem.

Build Item Shoes of Focus Shoes of Focus
Build Item Book of Thoth Book of Thoth
Build Item Spear of the Magus Spear of the Magus
Build Item Charon's Coin Charon's Coin
Build Item Pythagorem's Piece Pythagorem's Piece
Build Item Rod of Tahuti Rod of Tahuti

Alternative damage items

Notes All alternatives for mid build

Notes

All alternatives for mid build

Build Item Chronos' Pendant Chronos' Pendant
Build Item Soul Gem Soul Gem
Build Item Book of the Dead Book of the Dead
Build Item Gem of Isolation Gem of Isolation
Build Item Obsidian Shard Obsidian Shard
Build Item Soul Reaver Soul Reaver
Build Item Ethereal Staff Ethereal Staff
Build Item Spear of Desolation Spear of Desolation
Build Item Staff of Myrddin Staff of Myrddin
Build Item Ring of Hecate Ring of Hecate

Alternative hybrid/defence items

Notes All hybrid and defence items, tyrannical helm is a great choice.

Notes

All hybrid and defence items, tyrannical helm is a great choice.

Build Item Pestilence Pestilence
Build Item Lotus Sickle Lotus Sickle
Build Item Breastplate of Valor Breastplate of Valor
Build Item Genji's Guard Genji's Guard
Build Item Mantle of Discord Mantle of Discord
Build Item Hide of the Urchin Hide of the Urchin
Build Item Magi's Cloak Magi's Cloak
Build Item Contagion Contagion
Build Item Tyrannical Plate Helm Tyrannical Plate Helm

Support starter

Build Item Guardian's Blessing Guardian's Blessing
Build Item Shoes Shoes
Build Item Baron's Brew Baron's Brew

Support core

Notes Tanky support start

Notes

Tanky support start

Build Item Shoes of Focus Shoes of Focus
Build Item Sovereignty Sovereignty
Build Item Stone of Binding Stone of Binding

Support full build

Notes Tankyness into hybrid. Any hybrid can be changed.

Notes

Tankyness into hybrid. Any hybrid can be changed.

Build Item Shoes of Focus Shoes of Focus
Build Item Sovereignty Sovereignty
Build Item Stone of Binding Stone of Binding
Build Item Lotus Sickle Lotus Sickle
Build Item Pythagorem's Piece Pythagorem's Piece
Build Item Gem of Isolation Gem of Isolation

Hybrid defence/health alternatives

Notes Same note as mid defence items, read that.

Notes

Same note as mid defence items, read that.

Build Item Breastplate of Regrowth Breastplate of Regrowth
Build Item Celestial Legion Helm Celestial Legion Helm
Build Item Pestilence Pestilence
Build Item Heartward Amulet Heartward Amulet
Build Item Ethereal Staff Ethereal Staff
Build Item Void Stone Void Stone
Build Item Tyrannical Plate Helm Tyrannical Plate Helm

Defence alternatives

Build Item Mantle of Discord Mantle of Discord
Build Item Spirit Robe Spirit Robe
Build Item Shogun's Kusari Shogun's Kusari
Build Item Oni Hunter's Garb Oni Hunter's Garb
Build Item Celestial Legion Helm Celestial Legion Helm
Build Item Mystical Mail Mystical Mail
Build Item Midgardian Mail Midgardian Mail
Build Item Genji's Guard Genji's Guard
Build Item Breastplate of Valor Breastplate of Valor

Solo starter

Notes Starter can be switched with guardians blessing.

Notes

Starter can be switched with guardians blessing.

Build Item Warrior's Blessing Warrior's Blessing
Build Item Shoes Shoes
Build Item Baron's Brew Baron's Brew
Build Item Mana Potion Mana Potion

Solo build

Notes Void stone can be switched with tyrannical helm or gem of isolation. Build may vary.

Notes

Void stone can be switched with tyrannical helm or gem of isolation. Build may vary.

Build Item Shoes of the Magi Shoes of the Magi
Build Item Breastplate of Valor Breastplate of Valor
Build Item Tyrannical Plate Helm Tyrannical Plate Helm
Build Item Ethereal Staff Ethereal Staff
Build Item Spirit Robe Spirit Robe
Build Item Gem of Isolation Gem of Isolation

Solo build(against magical)

Notes Bancrofts talon can be switched for any alternative.

Notes

Bancrofts talon can be switched for any alternative.

Build Item Bancroft's Talon Bancroft's Talon
Build Item Shoes of Focus Shoes of Focus
Build Item Genji's Guard Genji's Guard
Build Item Gem of Isolation Gem of Isolation
Build Item Mantle of Discord Mantle of Discord
Build Item Void Stone Void Stone

Alternatives

Build Item Celestial Legion Helm Celestial Legion Helm
Build Item Contagion Contagion
Build Item Hide of the Nemean Lion Hide of the Nemean Lion
Build Item Pestilence Pestilence
Build Item Sovereignty Sovereignty
Build Item Pythagorem's Piece Pythagorem's Piece
Build Item Heartward Amulet Heartward Amulet
Build Item Spear of the Magus Spear of the Magus
Build Item Soul Gem Soul Gem
Build Item Magi's Cloak Magi's Cloak

Relics

Build Item Aegis Amulet Aegis Amulet
Build Item Cloak of Meditation Cloak of Meditation
Build Item Blink Rune Blink Rune
Build Item Purification Beads Purification Beads
Build Item Teleport Fragment Teleport Fragment
Build Item Magic Shell Magic Shell

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boogiebass (46) | June 10, 2020 3:22pm
I don't think spear of the magus is good on him, maybe for his ult only

Tyrannical helmet isn't worth the price and mystical mail isn't a support item.

Also, just for looks, you should separate mid and support builds.
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Kriega1 (143) | June 10, 2020 6:58pm
If for some masochistic reason you were playing Baron for Mid, I would build: Shoes of Focus, Divine Ruin, Spear of Desolation, Soul Reaver, Charon’s Coin / Obsidian Shard, and last 2 items choose from Ethereal Staff, Rod of Tahuti, Staff of Myrddin, Soul Gem, Mantle of Discord.
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boogiebass (46) | June 10, 2020 7:49pm
Oh yea right I forgot the most important one lol, don't play Baron in mid
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Gulfwulf (81) | June 10, 2020 5:33pm
I wouldn't get Book of Thoth or Ring of Hecate on him either.
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Lukatomic (3) | January 22, 2020 7:17pm
Need some help with revisions in the guide.
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Branmuffin17 (400) | January 23, 2020 10:25am
So with Shoes of the Magi losing flat pen, Shoes of Focus seems the obvious choice.

2nd item options seem a bit open. Suggested options could include Book of Thoth, Chronos' Pendant, Tyrannical Plate Helm (against phys Mid + phys Jung perhaps), Stone of Binding (early flat pen function), Divine Ruin (anti-heal), or Spear of Desolation.

After your 2nd item, things open up more. You can choose others from that list of 2nd item options...if you got some flat pen in that 2nd item, you might consider Spear of the Magus (it's use is a bit more questionable now, but I think it should still work fairly well for Baron).

As the game progresses, I think Soul Reaver is a very strong late-game item now with the added % pen. You can also consider Typhon's Fang (even as lone lifesteal maybe?), but would probably pass on it if the enemy built any of the stronger anti-heal items (e.g. Divine Ruin or Brawler's Beat Stick) or have anti-heal in their kits ( Bacchus, Sobek, Chang'e, etc.). Other late item options include Pythagorem's Piece, Charon's Coin, Soul Gem, Staff of Myrddin, and Rod of Tahuti. And of course you can opt for the defensive... Ethereal Staff, Mantle of Discord, or Magi's Cloak.

You'll have to figure out how you want to order, though.
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Gulfwulf (81) | January 23, 2020 9:44am
I would, but it's been so long since I've really studied mage items that I wouldn't know where to start. I'm going to wait until Season 7 lands before I start looking at the items again.
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Devampi (105) | January 23, 2020 1:17am
I am assuming the revisions are going to be aimed at the new season?
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Lukatomic (3) | January 23, 2020 1:51pm
Yes, the new season is changing this entire build so I want the builds and guide to be revised
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boogiebass (46) | January 10, 2020 3:58pm
I assume this update is valid until the mage items get a rework. But why did you choose Pythagoras instead of soul gem? Just curious.
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Lukatomic (3) | January 10, 2020 9:28pm
It gives more health and supports the entire team, I should've added in the notes to say that soul gem is an alternative to that and is much better, but I like going the support route for this.
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Lukatomic (3) | September 10, 2019 9:47pm
Anythinng else I need to add? Leave a reply to this comment!
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Kriega1 (143) | September 11, 2019 12:16am
Well listening to the advice on my previous comment would be a start, especially since you specifically asked me to do it then ignored the advice.
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Cooldillan (3) | September 11, 2019 8:57am
Y u being an *** about it though?
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Lukatomic (3) | September 11, 2019 8:53am
Oh you mean adding a solo build and remove the mid? I still think baron is very viable in mid and I am positive that all of these builds work in their best form and I have no trouble with book of thoth, I am still open anything to be added...not changed
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FootFetish (4) | August 26, 2019 6:03am
Well, the guide needs some work my friend...
It has too many colors. For me, it's very hard to read the solo and mid lane part, and that's a big problem. I'd suggest light colors, such as this one (ecb85d) and this one (b47ded), which are smooth colors that help people read the guide more pleasantly.

Also, you aren't naming the passive at all. You do say, in the Vivid Gaze description, that the passive is applied by all of his abilities. That is correct, but you should explain Baron Samedi's passive since is his most hard to understand ability.

Kriega mostly brought everything i was going to suggest for the builds, so that's all. :) ♥
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Lukatomic (3) | August 26, 2019 10:21am
Thank you for the suggestion! Last night I had a hard time with reading that stuff as well and I honestly wasnt thinking about that when I first made it and the passive explanation will be added today.
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Kriega1 (143) | August 26, 2019 2:38am
Mid:

Starter: This needs to be changed. Baron has one of the worst early mid clears in the game, if not the worst. The tier 1 shoes need to changed to something else, either Spellbook or preferably, Magic Focus - but this comes in later in regards to builds.


The Example Build: Overall, it's not an awful build per say, but you're building Book of Thoth without much reason for it, it's not like you're building Soul Reaver or/and Book of the Dead to make the best use out of Thoth. Shaman's Ring is an item im unsure about since the change, it doesen't give mobility any more, and really needs to be stacked to get a good damage purpose. Pythagorem's Piece is a decent item choice on Baron, but this build is missing on lategame damage a bit, especially to tanks so it's not a priority over other items like Ethereal Staff and Soul Reaver. Rod of Tahuti - decent item on Baron, works nice with his heal under the health threshold.


My suggested example build on Baron Samedi: Shoes of Focus > Spear of the Magus > Divine Ruin > Rod of Tahuti > Ethereal Staff > Chronos' Pendant > sell Shoes of Focus lategame for Obsidian Shard (or Soul Reaver), sell Spear of the Magus ultralategame for Soul Reaver (or Obsidian Shard). Why sell Magus that late? Because by that point with this build you can already decimate squishies, but it having that Reaver/Obs Shard/E-Staff combo will hurt those tanky frontliners lategame.

An example of this build in the very lategame: https://smite.guru/match/961685056


If don't need Divine Ruin you can just go: Shoes of Focus > Spear of the Magus > Ethereal Staff > Chronos' Pendant > Soul Reaver > ok now here you can pickup Mantle of Discord - gives you decent protections combined with the health stealing from a Ethereal Staff lategame, otherwise get Obsidian Shard > Sell Shoes of Focus lategame for Staff of Myrddin or something like Pythagorem's Piece etc...

And of course with a different suggested example build, needs a different starter, to which I suggest: Mage's Blessing, Magic Focus and Baron's Brew. Obviously you still get boots first for the build, it's just your clear is improved getting Magic Focus.

Onto your damage item suggestions, most are fine, but Gem of Isolation is a bit eh... Baron still has a DoT on his 3, so he can still make decent use of the item, but it's more expensive than Ethereal Staff and E-Staff will give Baron much more survivability in fights.

And may I make it clear that the build examples I gave are not something to use every match, just generic builds that should (usually) do the job, I gave 1 example with anti-heal and 1 example without.

If you want another reference (which is similar to the second build example I gave), look at the build used here by PrettyPriMe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qU4-9IgWgM

Support:

Your example build only has 20% CDR, and no Gauntlet of Thebes which you should really be building. Your starter also needs extra pots, I suggest Guardian's Blessing, Shoes, Baron's Brew, 3 x Healing Potions.

All I can say here is use my support builds section from here as a reference: https://www.smitefire.com/smite/guide/baron-samedi-conquest-mid-solo-support-6-9-20292

(click on the pages tab > go to Page 3 (Support).)
Solo:

You don't have a solo build so I can't say anything except use my Solo build examples as a reference and the builds on this page:

https://smiteprobuilds.com/Builds?p_filters_page=1&p_filters_search=&p_filters_god=3518&p_filters_pro=~&p_filters_opponent=~&p_filters_role=Support&p_filters_league=~&p_filters_sort=~

(One more thing, look at differences in the relic choices I list for Baron Mid, and for Baron Support. I hope you realise why there ARE differences, and I don't recommend Thorns generally on Baron, not even in tanky roles - solo or support).
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Lukatomic (3) | August 26, 2019 10:37am
Thank you for everything! I will be fixing all of this later today and I will be adding the solo build to this guide.

My thoughts on the support, I was thinking either [shoes of focus],[sovereignty], [gauntlet of thebes], [lotus crown], [pythagorem's piece] [gem of isolation]. OR [shoes of focus], [gauntlet of thebes], [lotus crown], [sovereignty], [ethereal staff], [pythagorem's piece]. The last 2 can be switched as well.
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Gulfwulf (81) | August 26, 2019 11:44am
Luka, you need to use double brackets for items to show up with the fancy hyperlinks:
Code:
[[shoes of focus]]

shows: Shoes of Focus
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Kriega1 (143) | August 26, 2019 10:47am
Gem of iso isn’t that good on Baron because his only DoT ability other than his ult is his 3, which leads into a root anyway, so I don’t see the point in getting it for the slow. E-Staff is a better bruiser option for Baron especially lategame due to how much health you can steal. Onto your example builds, both lack a dedicated magical defense item, neither have Pridwen, both have only 20% CDR, these are all problems. Also I would swap the places of lotus and sov around.
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GaseousClay (1) | August 26, 2019 2:53am
why do you not give suggest any BoToth builds? Makes it seem you're not a fan off that item.
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Kriega1 (143) | August 26, 2019 4:08am
Because why build Book of Thoth on Baron in Mid when he already struggles? Without Magus he barely has early game relevance, and getting Thoth just delays his potential. I mean sure you can get Magus third after getting Thoth third, but Magus is less relevant the later the game goes on. I mean fine, go a book of thoth build if you want, but I don't see the need for it. Remember Book of Thoth isn't as strong (by itself) as it was at one point last season. Im also not a massive fan of Book of the Dead (pretty decent on Hera though with Thoth), when I can just get E-Staff which got buffed recently.

Besides, mages are making good use out of proc items (Reaver, E-Staff) right now anyway.

Some mages I would build Thoth on, like Raijin if I didn't get Bancrofts into high pressure Mid matchups (like the Set Mid I went against yesterday), so I have good lategame scaling with Reaver and can melt tanks.

Hel is someone I would consider Thoth on.

Thoth himself I don't bother building book of thoth most matches because I just prefer rushing deso/divine then into the E-Staff and Reaver, or I go CDR > Divine > Chronos' > E-Staff > Obs Shard/Reaver (either order) > sell boots for Soul Gem. So I can abuse item proc effects with this build.
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Kriega1 (143) | May 15, 2019 5:45pm
My suggestions, remove the mid lane build and instead replace with a solo lane one: Shoes of the Magi, Breastplate of Valor, Void Stone, Ethereal Staff, Spirit Robe, Gem of Isolation as a generic build. Starter item would either be Mage's Blessing or Guardian's Blessing (guardians blessing in solo means you damage minions but don't last hit them for the kill so you can build stacks of guardians blessing, meaning you rely on minion and/or tower assists).

Support build: Shoes of Focus, Lotus Crown, Genji's Guard, Gauntlet of Thebes, Spirit Robe, Gem of Isolation as a generic build.

Relic options ideally are: beads, aegis, teleport (solo), shell, heavenly wings.

Do not get thorns or meditation on Baron.
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Lukatomic (3) | May 15, 2019 5:58pm
Having a mage in solo lane doesn't make sense to me as I have mostly seen guardians and worriors there, and having a mage in solo lane means that the jungler will have to focus mid and solo even more...and now that I think about it, that gives duo lane an advantage holy **** this is GENIUS
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Branmuffin17 (400) | May 15, 2019 6:25pm
There are some very standard mages that play in Solo and have done for a long time. Aphrodite, Chang'e, Zhong Kui, Ah Puch, Hel, and Hades (and Baron more recently) are all historically common non-Warrior picks.
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Kriega1 (143) | May 15, 2019 6:20pm
Lukatomic wrote:
Having a mage in solo lane doesn't make sense to me as I have mostly seen guardians and worriors there, and having a mage in solo lane means that the jungler will have to focus mid and solo even more...and now that I think about it, that gives duo lane an advantage holy **** this is GENIUS


What? Have you never seen certain mages in solo before? Are you even aware of anything regarding what may or may not be meta, or what may or may not be viable in conquest?

Also I taking a mage to solo also typically means building them hybrid/tanky.
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Lukatomic (3) | May 15, 2019 5:59pm
I will put a note in support showing this but I am keeping mid lane since he is a mage
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Branmuffin17 (400) | May 15, 2019 4:50pm
One missing item you could consider for protection would be Magi's Cloak. But if you're going Thoth (which is also nerfed and so makes it a bit of a hard sell), then BotD which you do list is perhaps a better, more aggressive item that still offers some survivability.

Bancroft's Talon isn't really an item you should consider, IMO, and especially shouldn't be core. He's already got healing, and you don't want to get absolutely shut down by anti-heal. You should instead be prioritizing Spear of the Magus earlier if you're going to go that route. If anything, it should be your 2nd item right after Shoes.

That said, I'd also probably prioritize other lifesteal items a lot less...no SG, no Pythag's, for example.

In Support, with his ramp-to-root, you should consider higher early pressure with Stone of Binding, which isn't listed anywhere for some reason. And his heal is too situational and only functional around enemy gods that Rod of Asclepius doesn't seem worth it to me.

And in your example Support build, here's where I think Spear of the Magus needs to be prioritized way less. Get it later in a build if you do pick it up, and make sure you get magical protection earlier.

Overall, though, this is a significantly better effort than some of your previous builds. You should offer a skill leveling direction, though.
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Kriega1 (143) | May 15, 2019 5:43pm
Book of Thoth isn't even bad, it's just Baron mid is bad.
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Lukatomic (3) | May 15, 2019 4:58pm
I will be updating this now
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Kriega1 (143) | May 15, 2019 4:17pm
Baron Samedi isn't viable in Mid since the last nerfs to Baron and the nerfs to Magus and Soul Reaver (which were his core items for mid keeping him barely viable there).

As for the "support" build that has no magical defense, and has not only spear of the magus but combined with gem of iso and asclepius alltogether as one is just not giving a good impression.
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Vini_sds (13) | May 15, 2019 4:37pm
Kriega1 wrote:
Baron Samedi isn't viable in Mid since the last nerfs to Baron and the nerfs to Magus and Soul Reaver (which were his core items for mid keeping him barely viable there).


I agree about the nerfs to Baron and to Soul Reaver, but Magus is still as strong. Baron just doesn't abuse it as much as Merlin or Anubis.
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Kriega1 (143) | May 15, 2019 5:42pm
I didn't mean the nerfs to magus made that item not relevant, im just saying the combined nerfs of Baron Mid core items and his own nerfs made his mid lane garbage.
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Lukatomic (3) | May 15, 2019 4:31pm
For the first paragraph, they messed up on these nerfs but I still see him as useful, as for the support build, the no magical defence is only because there is rarely magical players going against him in the beginning, but then again, I'll see what I can do
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Vini_sds (13) | May 15, 2019 4:36pm
Lukatomic wrote:
[...]as for the support build, the no magical defence is only because there is rarely magical players going against him in the beginning, but then again, I'll see what I can do


What about the enemy support? And the enemy mid? Or if the enemy team has a different comp and is running a magical ADC?

I know Lotus Crown provides situational magical prots, but that's no excuse to forego magical defense altogheter. If you still want to be bruiser, pick Void Stone. Otherwise, píck Genji's Guard or Oni Hunter's Garb.
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