Draft of a Letter to HiRezKelly Regarding ADCs and Snowballing, Up for Editing :: Page 6

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So just a thought, would it be doable to reduce the gold and or exp gained from killing lane minions? This would unfortunately effect mid and solo as well as ADC.

Because a ADC can easily go 0-0 and still be a beast, which is a lot due to gaining solo farm. This could also be addressed with forcing support to stay in lane more, but it would quickly result in supports being to far behind again (at least I fear that it could be the case).

I do not think that it is CC and escapes is the main reason for ADC being able to snowball, if anything it is warding (could it be viable to reduce the cost of Sentry wards, to make it easier for the jungler to counter ward?).

Ofc ADCs could be made a bit less safe (nerfing some escapes etc, as I mentioned earlier).

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This is too awkward and "chunky." For example, Vamana is in a teamfight, and he suddenly gains bonus health, power, protections, mana, etc from leveling up, as well as higher base damage.

And this won't help snowballing either. Don't forget about base defenses and how ADCs typically take a lot of damage thanks to them being priority targets.

- bonus xp doesn't mean it should be so much that a god would suddenly gain level, it shall be more like mid fury bonus xp even lot less than that.
- ADCs are targets sometimes but they don't mitigate much damage they simply can't unless they build with void blade , ruinic shield etc.
- i know, my idea is vague and very immature sounding but do try to give a second thought to the mechanics changes it can bring.
- Also, damage mitigated is the most important stat to look at after player damage in post match lobby. I think its very neglectful to not incorporate this stat in the gameplay.

- ya the idea is subject to scrap and am not keen on defending it unnecessarily.

Edit: nowadays no ADC builds items like void blade and other protection items they simply build crit attack speed and lifesteal they even does not need much penetration bcz of items like qin's sans and malice deathbringer combo. To me tanks/bruisers can counter ADCs and hence the snow-balling only if they can match them in level. With this xp buff scheme people wont ban zeus every game or amc or cronos and tanks will gain some lost ground. All gods can come to a same level where game shall be decided on playing skills strategies and temperaments.

And yes as best minion said, CC in ADCs is not a major reason for snowballing.

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Any general reduction of gold gain increases snowballing potential by making kills worth more.

(Uh, do we agree about the lack of pushing consequences is the main problem here?)

Warding changes is a huge pain to balance, not only because of the existence of , but because it also affects everyone, not just the duo lane. It would also make it easier for non-tank-supports to counterward, or countercounterward. Not to mention the act of placing down a sentry ward in the first place will make you visible to the ward, rendering the act moot. ("Oh, the enemy Thor just destroyed our ward! Let's fall back, forcing him to leave or wait for us to push again, wasting his time!")

If the jungler, a role who is traditionally pretty starved on gold, was able to get sentry wards with ease, expect sentry wards everywhere.

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@Arka: Your change feels too...rough. And in any case, the ADC at a higher level would still be taking more damage, because he will have more health and protections, but more significantly, he will be alive to fight in the first place.

I don't really see how this affects snowballing at all, to be honest. It just feels like a clumsy way of giving passive gold and XP gain.

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I think its time for you to send the letter to kelly, just add to your views watever pros cons and suggestions are made by varios people in a line or two quoting them. I think that would be fine with everyone. Let hi-rez decide how to approach the problem .

Edit: we can move ahead to other fun topic of interest for hirez game promotion esports and upcoming launch tournament.

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Darn, you already sent the letter? Would've liked to see what your final draft looked like.

Perhaps you could share it through the PM system?

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Darn, you already sent the letter? Would've liked to see what your final draft looked like.

Perhaps you could share it through the PM system?

PM sent. All those who like to be part of our every communication with hirez can always tell me, so that they can have their own unique smifefire mail ids , we have 6 ids vacant.

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PM sent. All those who like to be part of our every communication with hirez can always tell me, so that they can have their own unique smifefire mail ids , we have 6 ids vacant.

If it is not too much trouble would you be willing to send me a copy of the final version as well? I'd just like to see it is all.

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