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RTS: Uncounterable Ults

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Raventhor » June 13, 2014 5:57pm | Report
Why would you add an attack speed, damage, and movement speed debuff if it stuns

come on Chiulin that's completely illogical, unlike the rest of the idea that is totally awesome.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by TheZodiacWolf » June 13, 2014 6:21pm | Report
How to counter ults? With you're ult of course. Fight fire Ragnarok with fire Waxing Moon. Or just jump over it Unchained.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Chiulin » June 13, 2014 7:30pm | Report
Raventhor wrote:

Why would you add an attack speed, damage, and movement speed debuff if it stuns

come on Chiulin that's completely illogical, unlike the rest of the idea that is totally awesome.


In case they have beads and think that it's counterable.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Raventhor » June 13, 2014 7:41pm | Report
Just make it a knockup for 5 seconds so they can't use beads or aegis :D
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Chiulin » June 13, 2014 8:34pm | Report
Raventhor wrote:

Just make it a knockup for 5 seconds so they can't use beads or aegis :D


Not powerful enough. 10 seconds sounds more reasonable.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by FaTaLiTyFiReFly » June 13, 2014 9:33pm | Report
Wait , so this guy says all ults should be counterable... Sooo everyone can press 4 every ±120s just to have to do absolutely nothing?

Ares still does damage even if you don't beads... Hades still catches you for a second or two , zeuss ulti HAS to do damage... He is a mage

So basically this guy is telling us we might as well REMOVE all ultis... That would work right??? Just taking it away ... #countered
why does wukong look so much different now?
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Subzero008 » June 14, 2014 4:36am | Report
Ults should be situational, or at the very least, not useful in literally every situation. Xbal's ult is just a POS.

For examples of ideal ults, Karthus' ult is situational. Neith's ult is situational. Nova's Triple Tap is situational. Moya's Landfall is situational.

For the typical Smite ult, Release The Kraken! can be used for peeling, CC, securing a kill, chasing, zoning, dueling, engaging, disengaging, ganking, etc. There is literally not a single situation where it won't be useful.

Counterplay is nearly impossible. You can't dodge it. Escapes don't work with Whirlpool. Buying protections on anything but a tank or bruiser won't work, and early game and/or with only one magical def item, you'll still take tons of damage. Beads/Aegis, as I mentioned before, don't work.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Pentargonite » June 14, 2014 4:56am | Report
Subzero008 wrote:

Ults should be situational, or at the very least, not useful in literally every situation. Xbal's ult is just a POS.

For examples of ideal ults, Karthus' ult is situational. Neith's ult is situational. Nova's Triple Tap is situational. Moya's Landfall is situational.

For the typical Smite ult, Release The Kraken! can be used for peeling, CC, securing a kill, chasing, zoning, dueling, engaging, disengaging, ganking, etc. There is literally not a single situation where it won't be useful.

Counterplay is nearly impossible. You can't dodge it. Escapes don't work with Whirlpool. Buying protections on anything but a tank or bruiser won't work, and early game and/or with only one magical def item, you'll still take tons of damage. Beads/Aegis, as I mentioned before, don't work.

You have to predict the ult and change your playstyle. That's the counter.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Starkill619 » June 14, 2014 5:03am | Report
dacoqrs wrote:

No guys you're missing it.

I'm saying that ults ARE counterable, and should stay that way.

Then what's the purpose of this thread?HiRez hasn't made a ****er-less ult yet.Also, beads+Magi's blessing will ensure that you NEVER get CCd
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Greenevers » June 14, 2014 6:49am | Report
If you want counterable ults, how would Karthus' ult be counterable in any way unless there was a delay and noise to use aegis?
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