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 Ullr has a kit with an abundance of different specialties, plus he doesn't have an ultimate, just a passive ability.  Anhur has a simple wave clear, jump, and a burst ult that at close range is easy to hit. Mind you stunning an enemy against the pillar can be tricky, they are no where near as hard as mastering stance change and hard to hit snipes, such as that in Ullrs kit.
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 Subzero008 Renowned (112) Posts: 4262 View My Blog |
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Nemesis is nowhere near garbage imo. Same goes for Isis, she's so very underestimated. She's got lots of CC and teamfight potential and can dominate a teamfight if played right.  What a good Isis can do...Give reasons for Nem please. Also, Isis does have good teamfight potential, but so does every other Mage. Okay, maybe Isis was uniquely suited to getting a penta there. But every other mage would have gotten a triple at least, and the entire enemy team would have died either way, sticking at FG at <50% health with the whole enemy team alive and no wards. Potential is important, but it isn't everything. The problem with Isis is how outside of specific situations, she's weaker than most mages in every other way. For example, her ultimate. It's subpar when used immediately. And let's think of the situations where you would get a full charge. 1: Enemy dives/protects tower, and you ult to zone them out. The problem is that they can just disengage, making the ultimate pretty useless aside from minor healing. 2: Enemy gets CC'd inside the ult. The thing is, if they got CC locked into the ultimate, they would have died anyway from any other mage. Healing is useless because the enemy ideally would either be dead or have barely damaged you in the first place. 3: Enemy wanders into ultimate as it charges. Then they're idiots, and again, other mages would capitalize better on their stupidity. In short, regarding her ultimate, it has no niche because its outclassed in its niches. For damage, any other mage ultimate is more flexible and useful. For healing, it's both subpar and you have to detonate it early, preventing it from dealing good damage. It's forced to go one way or the other and sucks at both, and it being versatile isn't enough to overcome its horribly inflexible limitations. So it boils down to her hard CC. Which she does have a lot of. But is having slightly more CC than other mages worth losing mobility, burst damage, and utility like teleporting or early waveclear or a better ultimate?
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Subzero008 Renowned (112) Posts: 4262 View My Blog |
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Subzero008 Renowned (112) Posts: 4262 View My Blog |
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I'm finding it a tad hard to agree with a lot of stuff on your tierlist; Firstly in the Support section, you class  Bacchus in the same tier as  Cabrakan. Bacchus although somewhat outclassed by other guardians such as  Geb or  Sylvanus, is a solid guardian. As for your comment about his ultimate being terrible, I would have to disagree, although not as good as a knockup, it is probably one of the most disruptive ults in the game. Also, his one is great CC, what are you even thinking?Secondly,  Zhong Kui,  Scylla, and  Eset are incredibly powerful. If you watch any competitive smite you would know that Zhong Kui is often banned. When he is played, his mix of CC and AoE damgage is a force to be reckoned with. Scylla on the other hand has a completely different kit then  Janus... she isn't popular because her early laning phase isn't strong. Her niche although similar, is not the same as Janus.Moving on to the hunter's, your explanations for Anhur is incredibly stupid. Who the hell classes Anhur as not good, and then justifies it as "Anhur because why the **** would you take time learning Anhur when you can be just as good with Ullr in five minutes?" Anhur has a much easier kit then Ullr, and is incredibly popular in the EU SPL.Your explanations as to why a character is bad is starting to get on my nerves, especially when you class Nemesis as Garbage. Im not even going to bother justifying why your explanations for classing warriors are backwards, because it would take me ages. In conclusion, this tierlist most definetly needs some work. I may not be overly experienced but your constant use of profanities make you sound kinda dumb. No offence is meant, i'm sure your a completely pleasant person in real life. *Note that this is my opinion, it is not meant to offend anyone... I want you to stop your ad hominem attacks. If you're going to say, "you're too stupid to understand so I won't even bother," then I won't even bother to respond to your statements.
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Subzero008 Renowned (112) Posts: 4262 View My Blog |
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You don't need to land your 2 on a pillar. A wall in general will do. Ullr's ranged skill shot is pretty hard to land and his axe throw is decently hard. I think they're both decently hard to play with. I personally don't think any god is hard to play, really. _angrytoast
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Ullr has a kit with an abundance of different specialties, plus he doesn't have an ultimate, just a passive ability. Anhur has a simple wave clear, jump, and a burst ult that at close range is easy to hit. Mind you stunning an enemy against the pillar can be tricky, they are no where near as hard as mastering stance change and hard to hit snipes, such as that in Ullrs kit.Anhur needs a pilar stun to stun them in place since basic positioning makes it easy to avoid wall stuns. Also, Ullr's skillshots are a breeze to hit. His axe 1 is realistically only slightly difficult to hit, and his bow 3 is also easy and incredibly long ranged - the biggest mistake people make is overshooting it, but again, five minutes of practice and you're good. Seriously, if you think Ullr is hard, try playing Caitlyn and her delayed Q.
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