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I'm finding it a tad hard to agree with a lot of stuff on your tierlist; Firstly in the Support section, you class  Bacchus in the same tier as  Cabrakan. Bacchus although somewhat outclassed by other guardians such as  Geb or  Sylvanus, is a solid guardian. As for your comment about his ultimate being terrible, I would have to disagree, although not as good as a knockup, it is probably one of the most disruptive ults in the game. Also, his one is great CC, what are you even thinking? I already get why sub isn't going to debate your article. Bacchus doesn't got CC on his 1. the only CC he got is his  Belly Flop and ultimate. after he reaches tipsy he got another cc and a debuf. so for that 1 sec stun you need to have your tipsy bar up. _angrytoast
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Because  Scylla early game being so bad she is getting outclassed by  Janus _angrytoast
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Moving on to the hunter's, your explanations for  Anhur is incredibly stupid. Who the hell classes Anhur as not good, and then justifies it as "Anhur because why the **** would you take time learning Anhur when you can be just as good with Ullr in five minutes?" Anhur has a much easier kit then  Ullr, and is incredibly popular in the EU SPL.Anhur's kit may be easier but if you can't pillar stun your ult is pretty worthless because it can get pretty easy to dodge. also ullr can chase and escape better with his jump and movement speed buff. 
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I agreed with everything, except
 Eset being paced in the "garbage" tier.1. Not only is she good at locking people down, but she can locking people down from a very large distance since the range of  Spirit Ball is just insane.2. She is arguably very mobile for a mage since she has a 25% movement speed buff for 3s on a 10s CD (7.5s with breastplate of valor, which is core on her). Allowing her to juke people with ease multiple times during a fight, without it damaging her DPS. 3. Combining these two things makes her very difficult to gank unless you simply aren't paying attention, which is your problem not Eset'.4. Unlike most mages, she doesn't become irrelevant if she falls behind. Even if her damage is noting she can still: CC people, wave clear insanely fast, help secure objectives with her ultimate, split push and being such a nuisances to the enemy team that they start focusing her instead of the feed Hunter next to her. 5. Yes her ultimate is pretty bad in most situations and needs some form of buff, but its very useful for allowing your team to secure objectives. You can also place it on top of your wave when they are attacking the enemies tower, let the enemy attack them then activate your ultimate to heal the minions back up. And its pretty good at area denial. 6. And I have barely even mention that she clears waves insanely fast all game long (except early game, but all mages have pretty bad wave clearing early game). I'm not saying she that she is top-tier or not outclassed by some of the other mages (like the jack of all threats that is Janus), but I feel like she deserves to be in the "not garbage" tier. |
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If [insert god] shouldn't be labeled as garbage, can you list reasons instead of saying "he/she's been picked by a pro player?" If those gods really are top tier or good or viable, then it should be simple enough to do so. Sure, I have in-hand experience with both gods and Arachne is one of my favorite picks in the jungle. Arachne doesn't have the mobility of Serqet but has pretty much the same damage potential, if not more. Her spiders let you tower dive pretty much as long as the spiders die. Your gap closer outside of your ultimate? tangled web. Slows, makes you faster, then you can easily land your 3 hits from  Cocoon to stun and simultaniously get your hits from venemous bite. Not sure what you've been building on Arachne in the past but her damage potential to 100 - 0 someone is pretty insane. Not to mention her passive. I hardly need my ultimate, I save it as an escape for the most part. Landing her 3 sideways can be a bit tricky though when ganking an enemy who isn't pushed up far enough. Give better reasons as to why she is garbagé.Nemesis is equal to that of Serqet in terms of mobility. Sure, she's not as strong as Serqet in terms of damage, but Nemesis also has a shield that reflects damage aand an ultimate dealing percentage based damage while also shredding protections. I think since you did bad with Nemesis when you tried her, it lead you to a bad impression of her. I remember you telling us how you did poorly with Nem jungle. She's one of the few gods that can keep up with Merc and Serqet. Her slows let her deal great amounts of damage as her auto-attacker role late game. I suggest you try her out once more! Again, give better reasons as to why she is garbagé.
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Just a quick question, when you said Cabrakan's reason for being garbage tier, you said that he's an anti-Neith and AMC. Then you followed by saying that they're not used often. Yet, you classify Neith as being top tier AND you can find her easily in a Conquest game for any levels. So what exactly did you mean by: "Neither of which are played"? I think he is talking mainly ranked here, as you clearly don't know if it's going to be a  Neith in casuals. As for ranked you see the same **** everytime. First to go is  Apollo, then Ullr, then  Rama, and if half the bans were adc's, then you might finally see a Neith.I personally like Cabrakan, because he is trolly, but I agree his is pretty outclassed. Especially with Assassin support Sylvanus.... <.< |
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