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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by HammaSmite » November 30, 2014 12:30pm | Report
Why does everyone hate Thanatos D;


I truly believe Thanatos is actually in the mid garbage, because it's people who get too cocky with him that suck. A TRUE Thanatos is smart, knows how to use his ultimate in the right times, and knows when to retreat and when to attack.

In 3 minutes I'm gonna get attacked by every single user.
Also the best Thanatos are the legendary+ ones.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Greenevers » November 30, 2014 1:01pm | Report
Subzero008 wrote:


Nemesis has less mobility than Serqet, on top of Serqet having a leap. Nemesis' shield is also completely insignificant outside of dueling, but her low damage prevents her dueling, regardless. You're just handing me facts like "Nemesis has a shred ultimate" and expecting me to suddenly think that she's strong. Or worse, "facts" like her supposedly being able to match Mercury or Serqet. I'd like to see how many people share that opinion.

Also, why the hell are you saying I'm bad with her and saying that that's the reason why I think she sucks? Did you suddenly decide to be a ****, or was this attitude seeded beforehand?

Again, she deals bad damage. As an assassin. There is no need for another reason. She's an autoattacker with no steroid, her passive is meant to hit squishies but her ultimate is meant to hit tankies. Her kit clashes with itself, has poor scalings, poor damage, and not even the best mobility anymore.

Now, when she was overpowered, that was different. A 100% scaling skill on a 7 sec cooldown and a 100% ten second speed buff on her ultimate, on top of her shield making her invincible, now, that was strong. But this Nem is not.

As for Arachne, a speed buff and a slow are not adequate gap closers when everyone has a dash or teleport or leap or something that lets them disregard slows. I never questioned her damage, just her lack of a gap closer. Which is a pretty big issue for assassins.

And the only scenario where you can use your spiders to tank tower is using them before you ult, making the ultimate incredibly delayed and making it even easier for the enemy to just walk away. It's realistically only good for chasing, and/or forcing an enemy to burn an escape so you can chase with spiders after you ult.

Ultimately, no matter how good Arachne is at melee range, it doesn't matter when you can't get into melee range in the first place.

Um, who cares if Nemesis' shield is useless outside of dueling? Loki's kit is pretty much entirely meant for dueling except for his 2. Nemesis' shield is one of her most valuable things and that is the reason why she has less of a damagé output than some other assassins. Then again, I think you underestimate Nemesis' damagé.

And no I'm not suddenly being a ****, it's the fact that you are pretty much the only person who thinks Nemesis is complete garbagé and saying she has low damage. I'm telling you to try her out again to see if your opinion will change. That's the best I can do for you for Nemesis. Also, Mercury is overrated. I've easily been able to out-duel most Mercs, even late game. Serqet's Deathbane is easily Retribution'ed along with a magi's blessing. After that, Serqet has nothing.

Serqet does technically have some AoE from her ult and Ambush.

As for Arachne, I can confidently say a speed buff and slow are a hell of a gap closer. Enemies with dashes have literally no effect and I'm always able to catch up. I'll admit leaps may be a problem over walls but just to seperate you two? Futile. If you have a 50% movement increase while they are 25% slowed and you're dealing damagé, it's more than enough to be a gap closer. I've played enough matches with her to realize that. If someone dashes/leaps they still have the slow and the more they get away from you the longer your speed buff/enemey slow debuff will last. You understimate this.

You did question Arachne's damagé saying "I still maintain she can't gank anyone who has their monitor and brain turned on, who isn't at 20% health." which indicates her lack of damage. Um I'm not sure what you're thinking of by tanking the towers? You don't need your ult wtf... You put your tangled web under their tower so if they walk into it, you are scotch-free to attack them. And you don't take tower damage until your spiders die. Which surprisingly can take a lot of hits late game. You have a combo as Arachne - 3,2,1. 3 is essentially the gap closer so you can advance. 2 is the stun and you can simultaneusly use your 1 to buff your AA's to deal your damagé. Arachbaé's ult is never really a gap closer, I use it as a disengagement and escape.

Please Sub, I really want to know why these gods suck. None of your reasonings make sense to me.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Nex The Slayer » November 30, 2014 1:32pm | Report
Sub you're right.

I hate to admit it, but my Eset is "garbage" T_T

I'm so blinded by my love for her that I forgot that a 25% movement speed buff for 3s means absolutely noting in Smite.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Swampmist1142 » November 30, 2014 2:02pm | Report
I can't tell if your being facetious or not...

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Greenevers » November 30, 2014 2:40pm | Report
Actually, Isis has one of the fastest clears if not the best clear out of all the mages in SMITE. Mid to late game, you won't require your full length of Wing Gust to clear your wave which can be used as free poke.

Isis is in a better tier than Agni (not your tier list)... A good Isis should always be feared.

Any yes Swampmist, pretty sure he was.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by TormentedTurnip » November 30, 2014 3:07pm | Report
Don't forget that it also has the disadvantage of being pretty easily interrupted, though.

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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Raventhor » November 30, 2014 3:31pm | Report
Isis would feel stronger if her MProt steal lasted longer than 3 seconds. Barely enough to do anything with.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by HiFromBuddha » November 30, 2014 3:41pm | Report
Just another example of bad character design I suppose... I mean, I'm glad that they put it on a more sustained damage mage, but the MR shred would make a lot more sense on a burst mage. It feels really tacky on her kit right now imo, but I guess they need to make the ability do more than just silence and slow.
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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Chiulin » November 30, 2014 7:42pm | Report
HiFromBuddha wrote:

Just another example of bad character design I suppose... I mean, I'm glad that they put it on a more sustained damage mage, but the MR shred would make a lot more sense on a burst mage. It feels really tacky on her kit right now imo, but I guess they need to make the ability do more than just silence and slow.


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Permalink | Quote | +Rep by Nex The Slayer » December 1, 2014 12:50am | Report

I can't tell if your being facetious or not...


It's up for interpretation...

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