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Tiny Trinket
Uncommon Staff
Healing Potion
Mana Potion
Soul Gem
Shoes of the Magi
Book of Thoth
Spear of Desolation
Book of the Dead
Obsidian Shard
Warlock's Staff
Shoes of the Magi
Bancroft's Talon
Divine Ruin
Breastplate of Valor
Obsidian Shard
Soul Gem
Warlock's Staff
Shoes of the Magi
Book of Thoth
Bancroft's Talon
Spear of Desolation
Divine Ruin
Telkhines Ring
Hastened Ring
Demonic Grip
Book of the Dead
Bancroft's Talon
Soul Gem
Breastplate of Valor
Obsidian Shard
Dynasty Plate Helm
Breastplate of Valor
Hide of the Nemean Lion
Genji's Guard
Bulwark of Hope
Stone of Fal
Book of the Dead
Mantle of Discord
Hide of the Urchin
Breastplate of Regrowth
Divine Ruin
Pestilence
Winged Blade
Magi's Cloak
Mantle of Discord
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Hello friends, I am AstralScythe This is my first guide so I hope I cover everything in it, if not please comment and tell me if I missed something and just a quick disclaimer, although I main Sol and play her really well, I am NOT a pro, and all what is in this guide about how to play her is my experience and opinion, So you can basically do whatever you want, this is simply my opinion :D ,Also this took so much time to make so please make sure to vote it.
Kumbhakarna is the top of the list atm.... or she can be Jessica Alba on Fire during Fantastic 4 Rise of The Silver Surfer.
Ao Kuang or 
The Morrigan would fit more in role of the Jungler, since they can get in and out of the fights better than her and kill the key targets on the enemy team in team fights and ganks.
Pros
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Cons
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Passive | Unstable Manifestation
1st Ability | Radiance Radiance, so I would recommend you level it up last, since the heal value will not increase, and you gain more advantage of you investing skill points in your escape, while it is not that much of heal (since the more hp you have the less you will heal of it), I personally think, it is decent and sufficient sustain. other than the heal, out of all of your abilities this is the fastest way to build heat up, In a team fight if you take damage and still survive you can simply use your escape get off the team fight, use Radiance, heal yourself a bit then go back into the fight. Radiance, if you are in Disapparate's Essence Form, you will only heal while disapparating and after essence form is done.
2nd Ability | Stellar Burst Radiance or your Disapparate ready to use, and Stellar Burst in this case becomes harder to hit. my tips for this is try to aim at the side of the wave with Stellar Burst to hit both the archers and the melee minions early game so clearing the wave becomes much easier, also if you can hit both the minions and your opponent you will be poking your opponent and clearing wave at the same time, and since Stellar Burst charges your hand on use, that means you can use it in the fountain, so the mana regens instantly, and you have Stellar burst ready for the first wave, lastly an advice and a warning, the advice is trying to aim the line in Stellar Burst that appears when you charge it this will ensure that even if the enemy avoids the line the area will definitely hit him, the warning is more of a notice which is that gods who have dashes can only take half of the damage, for example, you hit Rama with Stellar Burst but as soon as it hits him he dashes out of it, he will take the first hit of damage but the 2nd hit won't hit him since he dashed out before it refracts and hit him.
3rd Ability | Disapparate
Aegis Amulet); however, keep in mind you can't use your abilities or attacks when you are in the Essence form (you become floating small sun), you also gain cc immunity, so no stuns or roots or anything of that can affect you, equivalent of 
Purification Beads, and you can pass through player objects. Therefore, I recommend you max this ability 2nd Also in case the someone is heavily following you, for example, 
Arachne, she will take damage, as she steps on the flame trail that you leave before you enter Essence Form, this can work in your favor if you damage her enough as you escape and may end up in you getting a kill and it actually it happened that in a single conquest game i got about 3 kills using the damage from the trail as i was escaping; however, i wouldn't recommend that you rely on the trail for damage because most of situations your opponents will not be dumb enough to keep walking on the trail, it is merely situational, the only case that you can rely on the trail for damage or the stun at the end of it, is if you are running in circles around a target, for example, when Rama ults and no one of his team is around I rotated around his landing spot, as it is marked on the ground, and made him a nice circular trail for him to touch once he comes down :D, you can pretty much say he wasn't really happy about it, lol (this was one time troll situation XD when I and 
Hercules were waiting for him) *cough*.okay now let's discuss what you CAN and CAN'T do in this form.
Ares, 
Da Ji, 
Xing Tian.
Odin's 
Ring of Spears and 
Cabrakan's 
Tectonic Shift.
Ymir's 
Ice Wall. Radiance while in Essence form (you will heal as you disapparate but once you enter Essence form, there will be about 1 or 2 ticks of heal that you will not get.). Stellar Burst, use Disapparate, poke the enemy and safely retreat; however, you will have no escape if the enemy chooses to attack after you have poked them, and your Disapparate is now on cooldown. Disapparate resets your basic attack, so basically AA-Disapparate-AA; however, you have to do it extremely fast because 
Sol's attack speed is already decent and might not make a difference.
4th Ability | Supernova
Ah Muzen Cab's ability 
Honey, basically you mark the path which the hit supernova hits will strike, generally this ability is hard to completely hit because of the delay. My advice though is to try at least to hit the enemy once or twice with it, since the enemy will take the highest damage from the 1st hit that lands on him/her, also it is generally even better if you hit multiple enemies with it since then they will all take a good amount of damage, which makes this ult good in team fights, also if you find enemies whose abilities makes them stick to their place like 
Anubis's 
Plague of Locusts or 
Death Gaze or Cabrakan's 
Tremors you can simply use ultimate on them and do maximum damage to them; however, just be warned they can cancel out their abilities and bait and waste out you ult, just notice that when you ult, the enemy can see where the supernova strikes will hit, and the delay allows them enough though not much time to dodge it. last tip for this ability is that you gain cc immunity for 1 sec while casting it this is when Sol generally raises her hand, this is merely so no one interrupts your ult; however, if you time it well you can have this 1 sec of cc that might save you in case Disapparate is on cooldown, I recommend you leave this as last resort, and try to practice it few times before actually using it.This Part will cover who is Sol weak against, who is Sol strong against and who does Sol work with well. Note : The defensive items recommendations are only if you are playing a role other than ADC or you're playing a Duel Match.
Also Note that while the counters listed here are true to some extent, it is not a must, this only means that Sol's kit is generally a good counter to them; however, this does NOT mean that Sol will always dominate over that enemy god or necessarily weak against that god. Mostly it depends on how you build your items, use your abilities and generally play, and same goes with them, It also depends on the skill level of the player themselves. So while these Match-ups are to some extent are true, they are NOT a must...
Sol.
Chronos
Chronos is much like Sol. he is a magical ADC with destructive late game potential. Generally in a 1 v 1 between Sol and Chronos, although it comes to who has better mechanical skill and aim, and capable of dodging attacks. Chronos has an advantage over Sol, which is his ultimate. Chronos can rewind back time and gain his hp he had few seconds ago and all his abilities are reset that means a close range fight can turn out to the advantage of Chronos, all I can advice you with, is to dodge his 
Stop Time, which is a line attack, if it hits you, you will be stunned and he will definitely hit you with his 
Time Rift, that is about 3 hits on you since his Stop Time deals damage twice. I would recommend that you get Purification Beads, you will have a second to use it "if" he hits you with his Time Stop(I am saying if because you can dodge it as long as you maintain some proper distance, about the distance of your Stellar Burst). If possible save your Disapparate until he uses his 
Accelerate, and once you do so focus on dodging his basic attacks till the 3 seconds end and you enter Essence Form or until his ability time ends, you will notice that he activated it when he spins his staff and a shine glow will come out of him at that moment, and watch out for his build, if he has 
Polynomicon, you must avoid his basic attacks(at least his 1st or 2 AAs after he uses an ability) at all costs, since he will burst your hp if he hits it after an ability. Maintain your range and use Stellar Burst and basic attacks. use your Supernova to force his 
Rewind, then use Radiance if you need to heal up, once he rewinds he will fight you again since his abilities are reset. again... use Disapparate to dodge his attacks long enough till your Stellar Burst at least is ready.
Freya
Freya just like Chronos and Sol. She is weak early but once she has items. she can burst you down in almost 3 or 4 AAs(Basic Attacks). I would recommend at least that you have one magical defensive item, along with Hastened Ring so you can avoid her attacks. Disapparate whenever she slows you with her 
Pulse, have Purification Beads and use it when she 
Banish you, but make sure you have your Disapparate because she is going to close gap after her Banish. if you can have Aegis Amulet for her 
Valkyrie's Discretion since you can not always depend on Disapparate, you can also use your Supernova to bait her ult if she is low but be careful not to get close so you don't take damage. Keep your distance, use Stellar Burst, use Purification Beads if she uses Banish, use Aegis Amulet or Disapparate if she ults Valkyrie's Discretion. Radiance is going to heal you up if you can remain alive, but she will have her Pulse and 
Irradiate ready in few seconds, since their cooldown is low, so don't expect it to save you. My opinion is that Freya is a really tough counter to Sol
Kali
Kali can be bit hard to deal with since she is fast and capable of a lot of damage late game, get Hide of Nemian Lion, use Disapparate + Aegis Amulet if she ults 
Destruction, this should keep you alive from her ult Aegis will protect you for 2 seconds till you are in essence form, by that time her ult will be over. Generally, Kali will tower dive and will not be afraid because her ult will keep her alive even if she fails to kill you. that is when your chance comes if she tower dove or took a lot of damage chances are she will be low on hp, and you can finish her with Stellar Burst, good Kali players will probably have Blink, so they have their 
Nimble Strike as an escape, make sure you use Radiance often and avoid being forced to use Aegis Amulet before her Destruction. Just focus on Survival rather than fighting her.
Skadi
Skadi is a hunter who has a bunch of reliable late game abilities; however, you can counter her if you are prepared, she is going to poke you and damage you hard with 
Permafrost and 
Piercing Cold, she is going to use one of them to clear the wave, most probably Piercing Cold, so try not to stand close to the wave, and avoid stepping on her Permafrost, a good Skadi player will know how to land it though, that is why you have your Radiance, other than that she will use 
Rune Of The Hunt along with 
Winter's Grasp, either have Aegis Amulet and use it after Disapparate when she does so, or if you have a lot of attack speed try beating up Kaldr (her dog) fast, he needs about 5 attacks to make him retreat (attacks can be basics or abilities, but AAs are faster in this case); However, don't expect skadi will watch her dog get beaten up once she ults, in fact she will ult and make her dog(will get full hp) reach you and root you, and then use Permafrost and Piercing Cold to finish you up, have your Aegis Amulet and Disapparate when she does so. Supernova should do fine if she ults you, just focus a path from her dog to her. Last thing buy Hide of Nemian Lion as defense.
Chaac
Chaac for a while was thought to be the counter for Sol, and I found it annoying at first, till I figured out that you can easily counter him, Chaac will use 
Thunder Strike to poke you, just make sure you are not in AA movement when he does, the movement penalty for AA is what is going to make you get him, other than that you can easily dodge it, if you find yourself in AA movement penalty, use Disapparate and you will get out of it, it takes a couple of times to get used to it, but once you do so, you won't have a problem with his poke anymore, when he gets his ult 
Storm Call, he is going to use Thunder Strike + 
Torrent to teleport to you, and use Storm Call. simply have Aegis Amulet ready, and use it when he ults, his Storm Call takes some time before it hits, and its silence is 1 sec only so you will avoid damage from his ult, he would have used 3 out of 4 abilities, and he is going to use his 
Rain Dance + basic attacks, if he has a lot of CDR he will use Thunder Strike again, general item counters are Hide of Nemian Lion for his AA, since you are going to dodge his abilities most of the time, Brawler's Beatstick for his Rain Dance and 
Witchblade in case you think it is necessary to avoid his Rain Dance's slow and Aegis Amulet for his Storm Call. Also have some Life Steal item to help you in boxing him, also Demonic Grip can be useful since it works like Executioner and gives you some movement speed.
Ullr
Ullr is one of the most annoying characters in the game. Since he got buffed, his stun on his axes gives him more than enough time to dish out his combo, his early game presence is annoying, my advise, is try to keep a distant from him most of the time, get a some health potions, whenever he switches to his axes, you must NOT be using basic attacks on minions, because you will have movement speed penalty, and it will be easier for him to hit his 
Bladed Arrow / Thrown Axe, my advice is to ban Ullr if possible, if not play extremely safe until you have build enough items to fight him, or your jungler is going for a gank. Sol's kit, help her survive, or negate enemies' abilities, or generally her kit is good against theirs.
Ah Puch Sol is probably the main counter to 
Ah Puch, because Ah Puch mainly focuses on high damage and slows, and here is where Sol's Disapparate shines, Sol gains anti-slow from her 3, just add some magical protection and you can poke him with your Stellar Burst after you use Disapparate to safely poke him, warning he might try to attack you after the poke; however, if you land your Stellar Burst, you will not worry about that because it will slow him, also he has no escape while Sol has a lot of mobility, and if you thought Sol's early game wasn't great, check Ah Puch's early game, he is more mana hungry early game, and is so vulnerable and weak for pressure (That is the reason he is rated so low in the meta), his late game can be a bit annoying, but generally Sol counters him very well, whether he uses his 
Undead Surge + 
Corpse Explosion or his
Fleeting Breath, Disapparate pretty much counters him if timed correctly and used properly.
Bastet
Bastet has very strong poke, since she can just use her 
Pounce, throw out her Declaw and 
Razor Whip, then just fall back, her damage over time, is what is dangerous about her; however, that is why you have Radiance, just put on a good physical defensive item and make sure she does not gank you while low hp, can be easily avoided by warding and communicating about her position with your teammates. you want to have your Disapparate ready when Bastet dives you and throws her kittens Cat Call, so you can escape very easily, her cats apply slow and Sol's Disapparate is an anti-slow. Just get a defensive item, and make sure you keep an eye on her movements on the map, ward properly and try to keep your hp up with Radiance and do not try to use Disapparate much when you do not know where she is, unless you are forced to, or get 
Heavenly Wings, it gives you slow immunity and movement speed to escape her ult.
Poseidon
Whirlpool and 
Release The Kraken! combo, generally, you will have your slow immunity from Disapparate to get out of his Whirlpool even if he buys 
Gem of Isolation, it is still useless, and have Aegis Amulet for hit Release The Kraken! once he does that combo, he will have only 
Tidal Surge and 
Trident, just keep some distance so you can avoid it and use Stellar Burst cause the only thing left for him now is his Trident, and since he used most of his abilities, his 
Changing Tides is probably out of its charge and his speed and damage will decrease because of that.
Artemis
Artemis can be easily countered by Sol because you can simply keep constantly poke her with Stellar Burst, just to be extra sure, get Hide of Nemian Lion for her basic attacks, and Purification Beads for her ult's stun 
Calydonian Boar, even if she pokes you with 
Suppress The Insolent, you can use Radiance and heal up with no problem., she is not that much of a threat to Sol, unless in a team fight and you are out of beads and disapparate, then she can kill you in seconds, but again she has no escape and can be ganked easily by your jungler.
Bakasura Disapparate counters his ult 
Regurgitate's slow, you can easily walk out of his ult, and go away from him, also keep Heavenly Wings as an extra if you still think he might have a chance, keep your distance and use Stellar Burst and AAs if you want.
Anubis Pestilence as magical defense against his life steal, maybe Divine Ruin and 
Cursed Ankh, use your stellar burst when he is using his Plague of Locusts, use Disapparate when he uses 
Grasping Hands especially if he has Gem of Isolation, use your Supernova when he ults Death Gaze since you can easily land all 8 strikes, just don't use it when he is in Plague of Locusts because he can cancel it. also keep Aegis Amulet for his Death Gaze, and Purification Beads for his 
Mummify ; However, Do not underestimate Anubis since he is still capable of a lot of damage.
Hades Stellar Burst frequently on him, some magical protection for his 
Death From Below and 
Devour Souls, when he uses 
Pillar of Agony, use Purification Beads, and Supernova on him, 8 strikes, one stationary target, just be careful with Stellar Burst because he can just use Death From Below and start attacking you.
Ares
No Escape, so you can use Disapparate and take no damage and not get pulled by it, same with his 
Shackles use Disapparate, also he is very slow, so easy hit with Stellar Burst, you can also get Purification Beads in case you didn't time Disapparate well, along with Magi's Cloak you are basically giving him no chance at all to use his ult.
Odin
Raven Shout + 
Lunge, or some mobility items + Disapparate to dodge it. use Disapparate to negate 
Gungnir's Might's slow effect. in Disapparate's Essence form you can pass through his Ring of Spears as if you have 
Phantom Veil. Just keep in mind not to stick around after Odin uses his combo, you want to get as far away from him as you can while you are in Disapparate, a good Odin will rather use his ult on your teammates instead of you or generally try to follow you till your Disapparate's Essence form is down, then he will ult you. It would help you and your teammates if you get Phantom Veil since you want to deny Odin from getting stacks for his Path of Valhalla since it only stacks if you or your teammates died in his Ring of Spears.
Cabrakan
Seismic Crush and he has also his 
Refraction Shield each with a stun, generally use Disapparate to run away from him because if he generally wants to stun you it is because, he wants to use Tectonic Shift + Tremors. you can use Disapparate to get out of his combo easily. Generally he might stun you while you are still disapparating just when he uses his stun, try to run away as far as you can because he might just wait for your Disapparate to end and then use his combo, so that is why keep a Phantom Veil in case you need. Either that or Purification Beads, but pop it as he stuns you, so you can still run while you have the movement speed from disapparate. If he goes for Polynomicon + 
Soul Reaver, you can get Aegis Amulet and use it as he is using Tremors while waiting for Disapparate to reach Essence form. If he is stunning you a lot, consider Magi's Cloak and Purification Beads, and if he is building tanky, get Obsidian Shard. Ares because almost everything works with his No Escape)
Kumbhakarna
Groggy Strike, 
Mighty Yawn, and 
Epic Uppercut, any of those will help Sol land her Stellar Burst. for Epic Uppercut it might need to time it well, to make sure the enemy gets the double damage from Stellar Burst. for Groggy Strike, you might use Supernova, or Stellar Burst; However, do not use Supernova when he uses Mighty Yawn because the first strike that will hit will wake them up from their mesmerize, and they can use their relic or escape or whatever they have.
Ymir Ice Wall, 
Frost Breath, and 
Shards of Ice. his Ice Wall can be used to block the enemy, and Sol can use her Stellar Burst or if it is a close area in the jungle, and there are no gaps that the enemy can run through, Supernova would be great, Frost Breath + Stellar Burst or Frost Breath + Supernova, and finally Shards of Ice slows by 30%, so use your Stellar Burst to slow enemies in ymir's ult even more.
Khepri
Solar Flare + Supernova/ Stellar Burst. Kephri's 
Abduct + Stellar Burst, if you are in a distance, if you are close to khepri use some AAs and then Stellar Burst.
Hades Stellar Burst to slow the enemy, as Hades' uses Death From Below, then Devour Souls for a normal combo, or Stellar Burst + Death From Below, followed by Pillar of Agony + Supernova, if the enemy survive 
Shroud of Darkness + Devour Souls , and some Sol's AA, makes a very deadly combo.
Tyr
Tyr is going for attack straight combo from the enemy's front, you can stay behind Tyr as he uses 
Fearless + your Stellar Burst + his 
Power Cleave. If he is going to blink for frontal attack, use Disapparate to catch up with him, then same combo. If he blinks behind the enemy, start with Stellar Burst to slow them down for him and he uses his Fearless + Power Cleave combo. you can use Stellar Burst at the end of his combo, but Stellar Burst's slow is just too good to not initiate with Or Stellar Burst to slow and 
Lawbringer + Fearless + Power Cleave.
Fenrir Stellar Burst for slow, followed by 
Ragnarok, then he must stand still while the enemy god is in his mouth, then Supernova (this does not short his duration or help the enemy escape, you do not have to keep moving as fenrir to keep the ult Ragnarok going.). Stellar Burst to initiate for the slow, followed by 
Unbound Runes + 
Unchained (causes enemy to be stunned) + Supernova. I would say, use Stellar Burst + 
Brutalize, but it is not necessary unless the enemy is close to his/her tower.
Frostbound Hammer Witchblade ;However, you can just pop Disapparate and stay away from the enemy, it is going to be more harmful to Sol if you are building her as ADC rather than a mage.
Cursed Ankh
Hel; However, It can be used with Pestilence and that can be really harmful because Sol will neither heal up from Lifesteal items, nor from her Radiance ; However, if possible just try to stay away from enemy and avoid taking damage till its 10 seconds duration ends, and it's upgrade is rather even deadly because Sol will take 20% more damage once she uses Radiance.
Pestilence Cursed Ankh, Radiance effect reduced
Runic Shield Chaac who can teleport to you and hit hard (Check Match-ups Section to know how to Counter Chaac). how to counter it, build more damage and penetration and keep your distance.
Brawler's Beat stick
Rod of Asclepius would help a little bit in this case. However, I mainly would recommend you try to dodge that person's abilities and wait the 8 sec till it wear off then use Radiance. In team fights you will not have time to use Radiance, so you will usually fall back, use it then go back into the fight; however, in team fights you won't have that much time to wait for the effect to wear off and heal up then go back. All you can do is either buying rod of asclepius, having the team's healer (if there is any) buy Rod of Asclepius (just don't both of you buy it, it won't stack, unless each of you need it individually), or dodging the enemies' abilities.
Divine Ruin
Brawler's Beat Stick except for magical gods
Toxic Blade|
Useful Relics
You become invulnerable to damage for 1.5 second, use it to survive ganks or enemy's ultimates, though some other relics might be better because it got nerfed, and it has much longer cool down duration.
In case the enemy jungler or enemy in lane, has CC ultimate  Fenrir, Xing Tian, Ares you know the rest ,this will make you cc immune and cleanse you for a couple of seconds.
In case the enemy has slow immunity like Bastet's Cat Call or you need more speed for chasing the enemy or escaping from them. Also Its upgrade is very good for ADC since you get to run at full speed while maintaining your AA damage.
Very useful Early game, not good late game.
Situational, In case enemy has Odin or Cabrakan, just do not rush it unless they are in your lane, you already have Disapparate which works the same way for early game. Recommended to get it after level 12; however, your support will probably pick it, maybe in some other game mode.
If you need to slow an enemy so you can escape, but keep in mind the can counter it using Heavenly Wings. |
Not So Useful Relics
Does NOT work with Disapparate's Essence form, It will not reflect any damage, because you are not receiving any. You CAN get it in Duel and use after Disapparate is completely done though.
Not useful at all, unless you are escaping, I do not recommended, since you already have a good escape. Bracer of Undoing Not useful at all, since you have Radiance, bracer will not help you that much compared to other relics. |
Stellar Burst for clear, Radiance for Sustain, Disapparate for escape, and Supernova in case you get ganked or trying to secure a kill. Stellar Burst for clear, if you are clearing the waves fast, and pushing the enemy a bit to his/her tower, get Disapparate, to help you escape because their jungler will possible gank at this moment, however, if you are getting pushed to your tower, get Radiance to heal yourself, help you clear, and the heat it provides gives you bonus damage. Supposedly you are both clearing at same rate, which should you pick at level 2, you don't put a skill point in either until you know, if you are expecting to hit level 3 and you haven't used your skill point still put another point into your 2 or get radiance, and the other point for Disapparate. Book of Thoth. always back when you are capable of building a full tier 3 items, for example, you started with Hunter's Blessing and T1 
Boots, once you have enough gold to complete boots, I recommend you finish the current wave, and fallback immediately, since having a full T3 boots, benefits you a lot early, and so on with the rest of the items.
Supernova, you can steal it, just try not to peak around the corner for it, or get too close, because they will probably try to kill the moment you do so, a ward on the Gold Fury or getting the Oracles will be great in this case if you have done it earlier. Stellar Burst, and Supernova, if you get to low hp, escape using Disapparate and use Radiance to heal up a bit then go back to the fight. No matter what stay close to your teammates, try not to split up from them, and do not go for a kill chase using Disapparate this is your only method of escape and if you waste it chasing an enemy, you are basically dead. Stellar Burst first to slow down their movement, if they are focused on you then use your AAs, or if they are not focused on you, hit few AAs first then use Stellar Burst to finish them off or slow down their escape. In middle of team fights, Supernova is a great initiate in a team fight, as long as there is a fight and not one team is waiting under tower, while the others are waiting for them to make a mistake, it deals a good amount of damage and makes your job as ADC a little bit easier, and you shouldn't have a lot of trouble since by late game you should be killing enemies in one combo or just few hits.|
Useful Items
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Not So Useful Items
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Sol's abilities. Sol is a great mid-late game goddess, she is a good and safe mage pick , and a better ADC pick in a lot scenarios. Sol is great for beginners and pros since her kit is easy, yet full of utility and has a lot to it.
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Build 2:
In my opinion
Overall these builds are my personal opinion, I am not a pro, and you can build whatever you want.
These items are simply my personal opinion's recommended builds for new players who are still learning the items, or are generally new to the game.
Edit: Also why pick
I changed the builds and made them more beginner friendly, and removed the item choice section because it is useless.
I usually said previously I don't like using
Also I used the Notes functionality in the Build 3 for all the Possible Starter Items. I am thinking about removing the Match-up and Synergies Section and using the New "Threat" Functionality.
for mage build, changed starter Item from
you might have noticed that I change the starter item for mage from
The Second part I changed was the ADC, I realized that though my previous build is very damaging and bursts out squishes fast, I would say it lacked one thing, which is fighting non-squishes, my build was surely damaging and does a lot of damage, in single game i got over 65k damage done, however, it lacks penetration, that is why I changed one simple thing in it which is instead of having both
I also changed the skill sequence, because this is a bit depending on situation and added it to Early Game in Teamwork and Gameplay section. however, I'll say it here once again, you start level 1 with
I also added
Lastly for Builds suggested by Branmuffin17, I concluded this:
for first 2 builds, I would say they can't be considered as ADC since you are building
and I wouldn't consider the builds mage, because you are mainly focusing on AAs disregarding the focus of the build at each stage of the game. Another problem faced me is lack of penetration, the only 2 sources of penetration are
for second build, Other than what I discussed about lack of penetration, I would say I won't recommend
for third build, other than
The builds had a lot of survivability but against tanks and ADCs it didn't matter much because the enemy would invest in crit, and the tank/warrior wouldn't have a problem with build that doesn't have the much penetration.
If I would build a 3 Ring build, It would be probably like this
with
with
That is both against squishes with nothing other than base protections, for tanks and warriors it will take more time, my advice for this build to be very effective is to try to land most if not all of the AAs.
I should really learn to be more concise and to the point when it comes to writing comments XD. I apologize....
And he also talks about that early game mage to late-game emphasis on basics. =)
So I was WRONG apparently, and Right as well...
So, I have written this once, but when I pressed the preview button in the comment, It give me a message display failure and I lost everything I wrote that took me about 20 mins. ;_; ty Smitefire, XD. Anyways to the point.
So I played against
Apparently with
Conclusion
YES and NO.
Building 3 rings + shoes still good even with diminishing returns is still very good, and definitely is OK, and I support that I find this build incredibly FUN to play with which is reason of playing in first place.
However, For a serious match, building multiple Rings, will make you definitely not be able to compete in terms of damage against other ADCs, unless hypothetically of course, you were able to land all your AAs and not miss any of them and that is not something easy to do, if you are going to commit to attack speed over damage, you have to consider that you will be sacrificing damage potential to do so, and you need to compensate that by actually landing about 70% of your AAs at least while dodging enemies'. I personally wouldn't recommend it in a serious match that you are considering to be able to play ADC role Effectively.
Lastly
I want to point out one thing I've discussed in the past that you might have overlooked. When you mention 3x rings, I think we should take a step back and look at the whole build and the function at different stages of the game. In addition, the fact that all the rings also carry MS is something to consider, and which is why I've mentioned a late game ring replacement for Shoes, if you DO consider a 3x ring build.
Talking Conquest, let's go back and consider strengths and purposes at different stages of a match. You can also build her differently for different purposes...she can be used as a more traditional mage, with secondary focus on basics for occasional boxing and, more importantly, objective damage. OR...you can emphasize her basics by focusing on attack speed early, and make her a standard magical ADC.
Although I'll talk about these options, what I'm looking to do is provide a hybrid solution, moving from a more ability-focused early game with a generally smooth transition to high basic attack DPS.
Purpose: Most of what this is about is wave clear, sustain, and poke.
Items: You can either go
You can do the early stacking item as a first item, or you can consider going more directly into a nice power boost.
Then of course, you'll move as normal into Shoes of choice (
Purpose: So now you're looking for a bit more objective push, and a bit of teamfighting.
Items: Earlier focus on basics means getting a ring as item 3, or 4 at the latest. If you find you're fighting other gods a lot, and they've already built at least 1 or 2 protection items, then
If you do get Hastened 3rd, it's a strong commitment to basics, and you'll want to further enhance that with
Purpose: It's all about objective and teamfight/god damage. A hybrid build at this point will have good damage via both abilities and basics. A full basic attack build will look to enhance that however possible.
Items: Alright, so now you're finishing the build, replacing the blessing, and...possibly replacing Shoes. See, you don't have to talk about 3x rings PLUS Shoes...you can REPLACE Shoes with the 3rd ring. If you go with the ring trifecta of
Those 3 rings combined with a maxed
So, here's a potential standard build with this transition focus:
Here's an alternate build with slightly earlier basic attack focus:
And yet another, with more ability focus early:
Would be curious if you'd try these out...or if you see flaws in these builds, let me know. Thoughts?
Another thing I wanted to mention for your mid build is
With Demonic + Hastened at full stacks of
This is also very strong for objective takedown, as full stacks will give her tons of basic attack damage.
This is, of course, personal pref.
You've definitely spent a lot of time on writing this, and it's apparent you've got some good base knowledge. I do wonder at some things though.
Anyway, this is a solid first guide, and would like to see it continually improved and honed.
Before anything else, I just want to say that I read a lot of your guides, I think they're great , I personally use them, and truly thank you for your effort for the community.
Regarding the Double-Stacking, I know it is generally a tedious, and takes a lot of time; however, this was posted on a pro forum : https://esports.smitegame.com/news/qa-with-smite-pros-advice-for-mid-laners-in-season-5/ . (Middle of the page) and according to Dukesloth it will be in this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeyg09-fJ80. And generally I think It is a bit reasonable since
For your second point about
for
Regarding Warlock Staff for ADC build, yes I agree with you,
Regarding Items, yes I will remove the unnecessary items, I just tried to list all items (was going to add rest of the trees) so if anyone had some thoughts on an item, It would be there; however, since you and dann are recommending not to list items unless it is necessary, I shall do so.
Thanks for taking the time to address my questions with extensive answers...always appreciate when people do that!
I understand the synergy between the high mana from
That said, with guides in general, I personally feel it's better when people make the guides their own...if you don't personally like that build, then I'd say don't promote it, you know? Do the build YOU like the best. Otherwise, it's like "hey, I don't like Trump but he won the election so I'm just going to do what he does." (including grabbing p****** and being amazingly racist) (Sorry if that line offends anyone, lol)
One funny thing is that, in a lot of ways, I think
thank you for replying again
I believe that
I thank you for taking your time, and i really like the analogy with trump winning the election (I am from EU Region though, so.... people don't think i support him...). My first build for this guide was
As for
I would try to avoid having unnecessary information in your guide too. On SmiteFire, you can view basic ability information such as damage and cooldowns, upon hovering over an ability, which eliminates the need to restate it on your guide. Although this is my opinion, I'd refrain from cluttering the build section with too many items as it will appear distracting, intimidating for new players, and some information could be unnecessary in that section.
I don't want to touch upon the builds themselves because your builds seem, for the most part, reasonable, and some aspects are personal preference, such as prioritizing an early
One last thing your
and for the third example build: switch
, like this :
If you only want one lifesteal item, go for
I agree with some points and disagree with some other points.
starting with,
I generally think
Triple Ring (ADC) also isn't the worst thing in the world but only IF you sell boots /