It's Tick-Tock time! | Sobek 4.17 In-Depth Conquest Guide

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Kapp

I can understand the dislike for Magi's on supports (outside of on Bacchus when against Awilix, in which I feel like it's almost necessary to pick up around 3-4 item as otherwise that matchup is too punishing).

Having a look at the nerfs to Sov and Heartward in the upcoming patch, we might see a mixup of the builds (which is annoying since you just updated this one), but I'd want to check out a week or so of pro play before seeing how things go.

I've also included how I feel the solo lane matchups should be from my limited personal experience, but mostly from what I've seen of the pro league in the last while. Solobek hasn't been too popular with the dominance of Death's toll into Vanguard and Mystical mail and high pressure solo laners. Sobek just can't clear effectively enough at the moment to be viable in higher levels of play, but if you can get through the laning phase without being too far behind. he brings a lot more to the teamfight than most warriors with regards to control.

With regards to matchups;
Ares:
- You can pluck the flames, which cancels his main wave clear. If you can do this safely it can be a huge advantage in lane pressure. Try not to do this when you know his chains are off cooldown since you can be punished for aggressing fairly easily.

Athena:
- You can pluck/tailwhip her dash to interrupt it, and also bodyblock if she's aiming for your carry.
- If Athena has her dash charged up (or is charging it up), hitting her with the pluck or tailwhip will force her to recast it. This is important (along with body blocking) to prevent her from escaping a gank.

Bacchus:
- IIRC your tailwhip is knocup immune (can't be sure so if someone can confirm that would be good)
- Almost always Bacchus will engage with the bellyflop into intoxicate. Your job is to prevent the enemy team from allowing to follow up this engage if you can't peel.
- Be careful around objectives and don't let him get too close to the gold fury/fire giant since the intoxicate is a great secure. If you know how much damage lurking in the waters deals with the items/levels, you can usually charge up your ult and contest since your ult has a lot of damage at base when maxed out.

Cabrakan:
- He deals a lot of damage, but is mana hungry and has a weak engage outside of picking up blink.
- Pluck cancels his tremors ability if he uses it to clear wave.
- His main engage is the stun ability that grants movement speed. It has a clear sound queue and a fairly obvious animation (his stance changes), try to fall back and force him to waste the ability or try tailwhipping before he can basic attack you/your carry
- His ult's walls require only 3 hits to destroy, if you or your carry gets trapped in them, make sure to focus down one of the walls if you can't get out another way.
(I would generally avoid phantom veil vs this god unless there's another wall god on the enemy team since you can destroy his walls).

Fafnir:
- You can body block the hammer, both preventing the stun on your carry, and his main source of clear.
- It's important to remember that you can't body block his auto attacks when he's in dragon form.
- Often he's used to take an early gold fury (usually with either Isis or Anubis in the mid role for secure), if he goes into the jungle keep an eye on objectives.
- In the charge up of his dragon form, he's untargetable (can't be damaged or hit by abilities), avoid wasting mana and cooldowns on him when he's transforming.
- If he hasn't backed for a while, keep in mind that he'll likely have extra protections from his passive (20 protections at 1000gp), while this isn't a huge note, it can mean that he's harder to take down early game than you might expect.

Ganesha:
- If they're quick they can prevent your engage with the OHM, and also put you severely out of position if you miss your pluck since you can't tailwhip away.
- Avoid standing in the wall of his pillars, they damage you a lot.
- His clear ability is rather damaging, avoid standing in the wave in general so that you don't get hit by this.

Geb:
- Very supportive, main engage is his rollout and blink.
- The first section of his rollout is not cc immune and you should be able to tailwhip, bodyblock or pluck him without worry. It's not till it charges up for 3 seconds that he becomes cc immune and gets the knockback. In general this is a very easy ability to avoid and you should be able to do so if you're aware of it coming.
- His shield cleanses cc, and with low ping and quick fingers, can prevent the knockback of your pluck. Don't prevent that from letting you engage if you feel you still have the advantage and it won't put you out of position as the shield has a high (18 second) cooldown and can allow you to exploit this when your pluck comes back off cooldown before his shell does.

Khepri:
- Has a huge amount of pressure with his rising sun clearing the wave efficiently. Don't forget that it lowers your protections and increases enemy resistances.
- Try keeping him in combat to reduce the amount of shields he grants
- Don't forget that you can still basic attack Khepri when you've been abducted, this helps keep your passive up and puts Khepri in combat
- His revive is a powerful ability, try focus on plucking/forcing him out of the fight to prevent him from being able to use it when he needs to. Also don't forget to not kill whoever he's ulted until the Scarab's Blessing wears off.
- When rooted with Solar Flare, you can use your pluck to avoid his abduct

Kumbhakarna:
- Annoying to lane against, but overall should be a fairly even matchup.
- Both his yawn and his groggy strike have a wind up time in which you can pluck or tailwhip him out of position and force him to recast this ability.
- Avoid standing in/behind the wave to reduce the effectiveness of his clear (and potentially his poke if they're more focused on clearing wave)

Kuzenbo:
- Nene kappa can deal a lot of damage if you allow it to live it's full duration. Make sure to kill it off to prevent too much poke and clear.
- Similar to Geb's rollout, you should be able to avoid his dash if you've got enough warning. I'm unsure if you can pluck him out of it (I haven't gotten around to testing which dashes cancel each other in general), but you can pluck to avoid getting hit by it.
- The thorns effect shouldn't worry you too much since you've got sustain in your kit.
- Would suggest picking up sunder (even after it's nerf) if you feel that his passive is going to be an issue and if they have a fairly tanky team comp.
- The knockup from his ult isn't constant I believe, and so if you spam your ult you should be able to get into the Lurking in the Waters. (another thing I haven't had a chance to test, but have seen evidence in some videos when people are playing as or against Kuzenbo)

Sylvanus:
- Slyvanus's strengths lie in sustain and so you should aim save your sickening strike until he uses his whisps to prevent the enemy from healing too much. Also make sure to clear out his plants to prevent the MP5 they provide (though careful of the debuf).
- He is very immobile and quite slow, you should use this to your advantage and pull him out of position with your pluck and tailwhip, and use the slow with your lurking in the waters to prevent him from escaping.
- Avoid playing up near towers too much as getting pulled under tower can be hard to recover from early when you can't tank tower shots easily.
- He can pluck you through walls/structures which is something to keep in mind, but try not to be too paranoid about it.

Terra:
- You can destroy her monolith with 3 basic attacks, and should prompt your carry to do so if you can't get in range.
- Try and avoid standing within the crushing earth as the stun can prevent you from peeling when your adc needs it.
- Something that isn't often mentioned is that Terra's basics apply a slow, Winged Blade can be rushed after getting boots tier 1 (and then finishing boots later, see the Jigz build: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUk3MPnS4No)

Xing Tian:
- His sustain comes from hitting abilities, when there are no minions around try to avoid getting hit by them. Also make sure you apply sickening strike when fighting against him to prevent much of the heal.

Yimir:
- A very easy god to counter due to his low mobility and telegraphed abilities, having the slowest movement speed in the game plucking him out of position and slowing him with your ult and keeping him behind is a good idea.
- While his freeze has a large cone, if you are in melee range you should be able to duke it fairly often by sidestepping by moving behind him.
- Would suggest getting Shell over Phantom as the damage he outputs is a bigger problem that his wall in most cases and Shell has more general uses.
- Be careful in the jungle or corridors in general as a well placed wall can cut off your only route of escape. This can be prevented with good positioning, but as you will often be zoning these areas it can be hard to avoid this.


General solo lane notes:
You won't be able to clear effectively until level 9 or so, as such you will often have to play close to your tower against high pressure gods. Your goal is to make it to late game while not falling too far behind and bring a lot of control to the team fights with the strong cc options you have.

Solo allows you to build more tanky and be a better front line than if you'd be in the support role since you're not likely to be as far behind in farm. You should rotate to team fights where you can and try and match the rotations of your lane opponent.

Often you'll be missing your blue buff for most of the game so don't be afraid to use your ult to clear wave and restore mana so that you don't have to back early. You can also pick up mana chalice with your starter item, or tier two breastplate of valor and tier one boots to provide mana sustain in the early game.


Amaterasu:
- You should be even in clear for most of the game
- Avoid boxing her with auto attacks as her passive will push the trade in her favour fairly easily
- Her ult only stuns if all three hits of it land on an ally, so you may not need to counter ult to prevent the stun on ganks.

Bellona:
- Will always out clear you, but you counter her fairly well in team fights
- You can prevent her main lane clear (Bludgeon slam) with both your tailwhip and pluck, however she'll still have the cleave auto attacks and will out clear you.
- Sickening Strike will reduce the amount of healing she gains from both Death's Toll and

Chaac:
- He has high clear and sustain, and you'll likely not be able to fight him until the midgame
- Highly recommend getting winged blade due to how large the slow his 3 grants (pick up after your physical defense item and boots)
- Avoid standing in the minion wave as he will poke you down very effectively.

Cu Chulainn:
Unsure as not seen the new god yet.

Erlang Shen:
- As with Bellona, you will be out pressured early and I would avoid boxing mid to late.
- His turtle form doesn't grant knockup immunity, so you *should* be able to pluck/tailwhip him (He get's knocked up by Sun Wukong's Ox form, so I'm pretty sure you can do the same)
- You can pluck out after his pin, but it can also cancel your pluck if they time it right

Guan Yu:
- While not often played in the support role this last season, you may come across him in casual matches, or in the Solo lane.
- Sustain is mostly relevant later into the game as out of combat healing.
- You can cancel his clear (Talou Assault) with your pluck

Hercules:
- Often the best way to avoid the knockup from his earth breaker is to move towards him as it only pulls on the end of the ability.
- Try not to push too close to his turret unless you're confident you can avoid the earthbreaker/driving strike combo
- Use sickening strike to prevent much of his healing from mitigate wounds, but also remember that damaging him also restores health at the end.
- Can deal a surprising amount of damage with his ult when on low health. Be careful of lazy backing if you're low on HP

Nike:
- You can interrupt her main clear same as Bellona (Pluck/Tailwhip), and force her to rely on auto attacks.
- Likely will out clear you until you put a few levels in your tailwhip, but not significantly.
- Her healing comes from the HP5 on her 2nd ability, you can punish this lack of sustain early if they get too aggressive by plucking her into your tower/minion wave.

Odin:
- Don't stand in the wave. His birdbomb combo (shield in to leap) deals a lot of damage and can effectively clear early on.
- Later in the game you can punish him when he uses bird bomb to clear wave as that's his only escape and he's mostly useless outside of that combo
- Cage prevents healing, your best chance of surviving while inside is to get your passive up and ulting, use your heal after the cage falls down.
- Is useless outside of his cage late game, pick up Phantom as your second active if your support isn't going to (and in some cases, you can both pick it up but make sure you don't both use it at the same time)

Osiris:
- Will always out-pressure you with their auto attacks and abilities
- Main thing is to wait till late game and help with team fights
- His ult is his main form of engage, it also prevents all healing.
- Low cc outside of slows, would recommend winged blade after breastplate of valor/other phys defense items.

Ravana:
- Another high pressure basic attack warrior
- Try to force out his overhand kick before plucking him
- Will dive your carries if given the chance, either prevent him from doing so help peel for them.
- If he doesn't get ahead in the early to mid game, he falls off late. Exploit this by not allowing him to grant too much of a lead and ask your jungler to help clear your buffs if safe to do so.

Sun Wukong:
- Spams his abilities, and so you will often get poked out. Try to pick up extra sustain such as a health chalice instead of potions when you start the match.
- You can apply your anti-heal as he's charging up his ult to lower the amount of healing he gets
- Is knockup immune in his Ox form, don't try tailwhipping him out of it.
- Has a lot of burst potential in the early game with his Tiger form into Cudgel and Master's Will

Tyr:
- Is a pain to deal with, but if you can get the practice avoiding the Fearless he should be easy to deal with
- Can deal a lot of damage at level one with both uses of his power cleave, be careful of this on the first wave

Vamana:
- Sickening strike reduces the healing of his ult
- Lots of ability damage, but requires two abilities to clear wave until mid game. You are in a similar boat, but require a few more levels to clear efficiently, should be able to keep up in lane for the most part.


If you want to discuss any of this further feel free to either reply or pm me. I'm wanting to make sure there are decent guides for characters as newer players don't really have a good place to go for builds at the moment.

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